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1 Alternative Lineage.

Elizabeth Talbot - 3rd Baroness Lisle d.1487
John Grey - 4th Baron Lisle (c1481 - 1504)- Elizabeth's son by Edward Grey.
Elizabeth Grey - 5th Baroness Lisle (c1480 - 1525) - sister to John Grey - married Edmund Dudley (c1462 - 17 Aug 1510)

1st child of Edmund & Elizabeth was John Dudley (c1501 - 22 Aug 1553) who was 1st Duke of Northumberland

John Dudley married Jane Guildford
children :-

John Dudley (c1527 - 21 Oct 1554) - 2nd Earl of Warwick
Ambrose Dudley (c1528 - 21 Feb 1590 - 3rd Earl of Warwick, 1st Baron Lisle

General comment from general knowledge: women did not sit in parliament, their husband's did the job on their behalf - so scrub 3rd baroness Lisle and 5th baroness Lisle. Don't know why the others are numbered as they are, possibly just one of those quirky little mediaeval things! Eddaido (talk) 11:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

True they didn't sit in parliament but if the husband alread had a more senior title then their "Title" inherited as the only remaining heir from their father still incremented the count before passing to a Junior male from the next Generation.
Clearly The Earl of Warwick is a more Senior Title so ehen the Barony of Lisle was Recreated in 1551 it went to the 2nd son Ambrose.

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