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You a ham?

Howdy KHM03... Are you an amateur radio operator (ham)? I was just noting that your user name KHM03 looks a bit like a amateur radio operator's call sign - maybe it's just my imagination, though.

--EChronicle 20:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not a ham...sorry! KHM03 (γραφ) 20:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for making your apology more explicit on Talk:Trinity. I appreciate your stepping in to do so without being asked, and even though you didn't intend any offense. Wesley 21:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, why do you keep on reverting my edits without giving a valid reason, please dont be a bigotted **s. Mystic 09:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done it twice too - see the edit summaries. Put your proposed additions onto the talk page and we can discuss where they best fit (there are loads of christianity related pages) and also how to phrase it in an encyclopedic way. Gilraen of Dorthonion AKA SophiaTalkTCF 09:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My talk page is my domain, and I manage it please dont mess with it..Mystic 11:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
if somebody wants to see anything its available in the history page (as you say it) Mystic 11:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"O Apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, 'If ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!' If any one's trial is intended by God, thou hast no authority in the least for him against God. For such - it is not God's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. (Quran, 5:41)" Mystic 11:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pastor, can I ask you a personal question? Do you honestly believe what you keep on removing from "Criticism of Christianity" article is the word of god? Or do you believe it because some "scholar" agrees that it is the word of god. Mystic 11:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC) If it really is the word of god wouldn't god protect god's own words from being altered in such a manner? My other question is where is the unaltered, orginal bible? Do the christians have access to it? I also want to apologize for bieng rude on your talk page, I was bit out of mood "I am sorry". Mystic 11:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you said: I believe that the Bible is the word of God, inspired and authoritative. I believe that Jesus alone is the Word of God. If Jesus alone is the word of god, and how come again bible is also the word of god? Are bible and Jesus the same? I am puzzled can you clarify. Mystic 11:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You missed my previos question.. I have bolded it.. Mystic 12:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

so how could a religion be based on something that has errors in it? Mystic 12:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is'nt Christianity a "way of life" that teaches how one should live their life, the rules and regulations, what one should abstain from what one can indulge on, things like that. Whats the guide for christians? If all Christians do not believe in the Bible Mystic 12:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What binds the Christian to the religion or "the way of life" that you are refering to? Dont you agree (pls dont misunderstand) Christians are the ones who are closest to atheists , in behaviour, they proclaim the existence of god and continue to violate his command. I come from a country that Christians are a minority (so are muslims), so most of the things I know about christians is from Television and few of my christian friends. They freely indulge intoxicants (alcohol), even on the most important day in the christian calendar (xmas), the christians I know consume alcohol, dance and kiss women who they are not married to. This is what I have seen and experienced..As a pastor I am sure you must be totally different to what I have described. Doesn't Christianity have any control over the behaviour of it followers? Is belief in Jesus alone is enough? Whats your opinion? Mystic 13:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just butting in on someone else's conversation here. Who says Christmas is the most important day in the calendar? AnnH 15:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good point...that's Easter, hands down. KHM03 (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can think of another day that I feel should be considered as more important than Christmas. I don't know how important it is to Methodists, but I think that Catholics should celebrate it more. It's consistent with our belief that human life begins at conception that we should celebrate 8 December as a Holy Day of Obligation, and not 8 Septemter (the birth of Our Lady). But we're a bit inconsistent in celebrating 25 December as a Holy Day, and not 25 March. If I were Pope, I would change the title of that feast from Annunciation to Incarnation, and I would make it a Holy Day of Obligation. Oh, if only . . . ;-) AnnH 16:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that all Christians should make a bigger deal about the Annunciation...but I still believe that Easter trumps all...it's the most important event in history, in my view. Everything hinges upon it. KHM03 (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not at all against dancing as long one is dancing with his/her own spouse (Didn't God create partners to indulge in them a little bit ;-)). All the other forms can lead to adultry as it is the case in many situations. I am completely against intoxicants as it could be the root cause of many other sins. Paul wouldn't've asked to drink alcohol, could it be grape wine (non - alcoholic), that he refered to? I personally believe, most of the things in the bible are interpreted in the most convinient way to the christians and not the actual truth. Do you disagree? Mystic 14:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judas

Thanks - it's nice to see him possibly rehabilitated. Judas' part in the NT always bugged me as it didn't seem fair what happened to him for playing a most essential role - almost like he drew the really short straw! Gilraen of Dorthonion AKA SophiaTalkTCF 16:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for removing that message from my talk page.. Mystic 16:07, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Question for KHM03

KHM03, Reviewing your contributions I note that you have rejected a number of citatations of authorities critical of Christianity on the grounds that there are better authorities, rejected a number of books on the grounds that there are better critical books, and rejected references to external websites on the grounds that there are better critical websites. As it is not very clear what criteria you are using to dismiss sources which look perfectly good to others, and as you neglected to give examples of these "better" sources, I wonder of you would be kind enough to supply a list of the critical authorities (journalists, historians, ex-theologians, etc), critical books and critical websites that you would recommend. This will save many people wasting their time in future. Hope this does not sound an unreasonable request Trollwatcher 15:16, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]