User talk:122.72.0.113

You got the wrong person

You just posted to my talk page, but you got the wrong person. I am not the person at the 84, whatever IP address. Whether I was or not, it is disappointing that you would leap to an ad hominem accusation of conflict of interest because another editor disagrees with you. Media effects are a controversial issue and different editors workign together with different views will help maintain balance on these topics. Your own comments (suggesting the negative impact of media is unambiguous) is out of sorts with the data. I could just as easily accuse you of having a conflict of interest, perhaps working for an anti-media advocacy group. I hope you will learn to keep your disagreements with other editors cordial and assuming good faith in the future. We all get along better that way. Avalongod (talk) 04:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

It's not about disagreeing with me. I don't have a strong opinion about the effects of pornography. I have a strong opinion about editors trying to exclude material simply because they don't like it. You say that you are not 84.132.80.170 at the Social effects of pornography article, but you two edit the same way, as I am certain that 84.132.80.170 was also the other IPs who recently tried to skew the article by removing negative information about viewing pornography, and you two both make comments about what you believe to be something researchers would or wouldn't say and what you believe to be "unscientific language," as though scholars never use words like "unhealthy relationships." Are you kidding me? And even if you aren't 84.132.80.170, you mean to tell me that you weren't any of the other IPs, that you did not edit this article until after I challenged 84.132.80.170? I highly doubt that, seeing as I followed one of the other IPs and that took me to some of the articles you are working on. This IP - IP 69.91.76.222 - is no doubt you. Just as this IP - IP /69.91.76.238 - is no doubt you. Not to mention, you'd been absent from editing under your registered account since March 1st and suddenly showed back up again on the 5th to reply to me. You are wrong that my comments suggesting the negative impact of the media are out of date. Researchers are continuously citing negative media effects, as can be seen on Google Books or Google Scholar, and that most certainly extends to viewing pornography. Many men have stated that consistently viewing pornography led them to have unrealstic expectations of the types of sexual acts women want to engage in and that they were led to expect/desire these acts, when they wouldn't have if not for viewing porn. Hell, even this guy talks about it in his article "How Porn Is Ruining Anal Sex – And other ways porn is sex negative." There are also plenty of articles talking about how porn is making real sex less interesting to men. It's not like it's an unproven thing. And I say that as a guy who also watches porn and knows that it has desensitized me to certain sexual acts and has made it so that even viewing a naked woman doesn't immediately turn me on anymore. Yet I have not edited the Social effects of pornography article to say "Porn is bad, bad, bad" because I don't believe that it has to be. Only that it can be. So saying that you "could just as easily accuse [me] of having a conflict of interest, perhaps working for an anti-media advocacy group" is silly. My editing has not reflected that at all. And neither have my comments. Your editing, and some of your comments if you are 84.132.80.170, on the other hand? Have. I have no issue being cordial. I just hate POV-pushing edits that wrongly skew articles. There should generally be WP:Neutrality in our articles here, except for in the cases where there cannot be (such as the scientific community unanimously agreeing that smoking is bad). 122.72.0.113 (talk) 08:50, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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