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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Tempsperdue (talk | contribs) at 02:30, 8 July 2012 (→‎Hawker Typhoon: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

PLEASE NOTE: IMPORTANT: At this time (Jan-Feb 2012) I am really busy with university work; my reponse times WILL be slow.


just finished this up. and was surprised by the string of "airfields" up the west side of the great sand sea, was this an LRDG supply rout? (ps clicking on the map box at the bottom of the page will diplay all the coords at once) Brian in denver (talk) 21:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse response

Hi, so I've rejected your case, as there are five blocks but has not been blocked for a year or later. Also, I've prefixed it, as it is not an article. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 00:54, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hawker Typhoon

I think it is important that for every number of kills claimed that is in the article a verifiable source be used. And this is what I did for Goodwood and Mortain. I also added the overall numbers, as best as I could find, for the Normandy Campaign to put all the claimed kills in perspective. Part of the problem with air attacks is that they simply weren't that effective in ww2 using fighter bombers and unguided munitions against armoured or dug in targets! Much propaganda has been made regarding air attacks by all sides during and post war, likely to validate the cost of fighter bombers....but as I tried to show more recent research and even ground based analysis post battle during the war suggests that direct fighter bomber attacks accounted for between 3-7% of tanks; regardless of the nation. This is why I think the section on effectiveness should have something in more detail about:

1) the difficulty of hitting a pin point target with a plane and unguided munitions

2) the fact that many tanks had armoured tops which a 20-37mm cannon at a glancing angle (30-60 deg) strike angle would have difficulty penetrating

3) Aircraft munitions are limited, so as a weapons platform aircraft cannot 'last in the fight' as they quickly run out of bombs, rockets or cannon shells..heck the Ju87G only had what 12 37mm shells in its underwing pods! This means that aircraft cannot really sustain fire on an area like a ground based AT gun can!

4) Attacking a dug-in, fortified or AA defended spearhead is even more difficult as the AA fire restricts the lines of approach and reduces the time aircraft have over the target!

A referenced discussion of the above is warranted for combat effectiveness.