Talk:Barista
someone put more info?
why is there more info about baristas in the espresso section than in its own article? such as how baristas in italy are considered a career position but in american, its more considered as p-time job for teenagers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.149.203 (talk) 03:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
In Italy barista means bartender, includes preparations of coffee, hot drinks, cold drinks and bar zone Management.
Made a few minor changes regarding the meaning of the Italian word ;-)
- Yes. But Barista is the same for male and female bartender. There no such word as Baristo in Italian. The plural forms are correct (baristi, for males and mixed gender, and bariste, for females). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.235.24.187 (talk) 23:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Starbucks? Really?
There were other espresso houses in the US before Starbucks. I worked in one, in California. I can't prove anything, but I think the word was being used there, and no one had ever heard of Starbucks. I'd like a citation? 216.231.46.147 02:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- So would I. I added a citation needed tag. DarkAudit 02:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- In the Espresso article with a section on Baristas states that Starbucks popularized the term but it was in use before that. Both of these articles should state the same origin of the word. Itsmeiam 21:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Etymological Confusion
Wait, wait... Doesn't this article disagree with itself? For the first couple of sentences, it's a Starbucks gimmick. For the next few, it's a genuine Italian term. Anyone motivated enough to fix this? --24.140.118.41 00:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Added a self-contradiction template until this can be researched and resolved. --Ringtail Jack 13:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any contradiction, I read it as: the Italian definition is 'Bartender', and the American (doesn't actually mention Starbucks) definition is 'highly skilled in coffee preparation'. The American/English use of the word is a derivative of the Italian meaning.
(The above comment was unsigned. Mine now follows:) I, too, see no "contradiction." Etymology and local/contemporary usage need not correspond. P00r 04:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Barista could be Spanish
In the Spanish language the suffix ista is added to a noun to signify a person who works with that noun, for example taxi ---> taxista (taxi driver), bajo (bass)---> bajista (bass player). Source: LoMásTv: Eso es lo que hay! (a Spanish language education web site) 71.114.168.247 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's not. Italian and Spanish are similar languages, but the use of barista in the English language comes from the Italian (along with espresso). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.150.0.78 (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Cheesy picture
That photo is looking pretty cheesy/planned. Is there any way we can get a better quality, candid photo? --Jp07 (talk) 15:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I would TOTALLY agree. It looks as if the person in the photo was the one who put it there, just so he could say, "Look! I'm on Wikipedia!" - Jason Perry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.222.27.78 (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
does wikipedia have a ban on cheesiness? 67.176.160.47 (talk) 04:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
That photo isn't even from a cafe, it's from the place where they biuld those espresso machines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.120.76.200 (talk) 03:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Focus
Previously (as in this version), this article was over-focused on the word "barista" rather than discussing baristas in general. This is still the case, but in this version I've made an effort to recast the article to have the correct focus. Further improvement is needed, of course -- it still needs references, for starters, and ideally enough information can be found to balance out the current overemphasis on the word's usage. Powers T 20:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Super Automatic
Really? The article even states there are only three types of machines a barista works with, and then "Super Automatic" is tacked on. I'm removing it till I get some real citations.71.94.63.105 (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
User manual wanted
The "Baristas operate three different types of commercial espresso machine ..." section may be about the chores of being a barista, but seems a bit off-topic in an encyclopedic article (as opposed to an introduction to baristing) about baristas (not espresso machines). Don't we want to include a user manual as well? --80.121.14.15 (talk) 14:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Very brief
Oh well, this article as it is right now could be rephrased as "a barista is a person who studied and hopefully knows how to make a good coffee". That's not much. In fact this pretty much sounds like somecompany needed to brand "good coffee we make" and titled their own coffee makers as "barista", because it sounds cool or whatever. I kind of expected some history of the title, and a few attributes of what signifies a barista to exist... Looks like there isn't any? --grin ✎ 07:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Farcical
You prepare coffee in a coffee shop: that's it. Get over yourselves.