Talk:Fethullah Gülen/Archive 3
"The moderate Turkish citizen trust Gulen" expression is not verifiable. There are supporters of Fethullah Gulen among Turkish citizens but there are many other "moderate" Turkish citizens who consider him as an activist against secularism of the Turkish state.
- It needs to be changes. I changed it and removed the templete...
My objection is not to some of the words, it is to the general idea. The people who want to protect the secular state that are mentioned as "extreme" are the skeleton of the country, they are not extremists among Turkish citizens.
Discuss before edits
It is a standard in Wiki that we discuss before editing the articles. Could you please follow that policy? He has never convicted for a crime and currently free. I cannot see what you will gain by distorting the facts... 216.248.123.113 17:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- I did not know that an edition needs a discussion in Wiki. I was thinking that it is free to write anything as long as they are not subject to copyright and they are verifyable. What I wrote needed more information because it was misleading in that form and you corrected me. Thank you for that. And about your discussion, I do not see what you will gain by attacking people personally. It was just a mistake and needed correction.
- Thanks for correcting the mistake. I cannot see what you are considered being attacking people, especially after you see your mistake. Discussing before editing is a standard here. The merit of it is: it allows to reach a consensus and better understanding of eachother. For your addition for example: if you would discuss it here first, I could tell you that, the points you inserted are already discussed in the 'contraversies' section. So, it is needless. It includes many unnecessary detalis like the names of judges, numbers of the files, etc. It does not add any significant information to the article. Thanks. 216.248.123.43 22:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- While it is generally good form to check a given article's talk page for any editing issues prior to doing any significant editing on it, do not feel obligated to first discuss edits prior to doing them...but rather be bold and edit straight away. This appears to be a false attempt by a fellow editor to own this article and is very wrong. Netscott 07:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for correcting the mistake. I cannot see what you are considered being attacking people, especially after you see your mistake. Discussing before editing is a standard here. The merit of it is: it allows to reach a consensus and better understanding of eachother. For your addition for example: if you would discuss it here first, I could tell you that, the points you inserted are already discussed in the 'contraversies' section. So, it is needless. It includes many unnecessary detalis like the names of judges, numbers of the files, etc. It does not add any significant information to the article. Thanks. 216.248.123.43 22:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Question to the editor of this article
He is trained in theology by several Muslim scholars and also studied the principles and theories of social and physical sciences. I would very much appreciate if you could write which islamic scholars Mr. Gülen was trained by.
- Mainly by Alvarli Muhammed Lutfi on the spiritual issues, and Osman Bektas on the theology part. 216.248.123.82 07:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
there are also radical religious groups who are critical about his methods and activities such as his effort on dialogue with Christians and Jews. Which religious groups are considered radical? And how was it decided that those groups were radical? What does radical imply here? What are the qualitisies of Mr. gülen's interfaith dialogue? On which idead of his (or another scholar's) ideas is this based?
- The term 'radical' is used to express the idea that they may use or support to use violence. Please see interfaith dialogue intro part for a brief explanation of his approach. His ideas are based on the sole and main scripture: Quran, and the second most important source: Hadith.
many thanks in advance for your answers. Suleyman Habeeb 15:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome... I hope it is satisfactory. 216.248.123.82 07:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Money
All the money comes from the businessmann of Turkey. It is known to all. He has millions of followers to support the idea. 128.255.45.117 20:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)