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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by DownRightMighty (talk | contribs) at 21:03, 15 October 2012 (→‎October 2012). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

October 2012

Hello, I'm DownRightMighty. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Mercy Ministries because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Please do not attack Wikipedia pages or use multiple accounts to do so. I will be reporting your account (and that of your sister account that left a message on my talk page) to Wikipedia. DownRightMighty (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MissSherryBobbins. I'm Qwyrxian, an administrator here on Wikipedia. I saw your note on DownRightMighty's page. It is true that DownRightMighty shouldn't accuse you of having multiple accounts without evidence. I'm going to follow up with DownRightMighty on this issue. Regarding the rest of your message, however, you do need to go to the article's talk page to discuss the changes you made. The major revisions that DRM made to the page appear to me to make the article more completely comply with our various policies and guidelines, especially WP:WEIGHT (part of our requirement that articles be neutral). For example, we cannot use blogs as sources on Wikipedia in most cases. So, please do start a discussion on Talk:Mercy Ministries about improving it. I do personally see some significant problems now, that I'll raise there--perhaps that can be a chance for the two of you to start talking together. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:35, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not apologize for my accusation as it is just too coincidental with the edits and the comments at the same time. Regardless, I am more than happy to discuss the information with you in order to come up with a consensus which is what guides the content of Wikipedia. I have left more information on my talk page for you. --DownRightMighty (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DRM and Q.

With regard to the accusation, Q I am happy for you to investigate. I did not post that statement and I do not seek to harass anyone, I don't even know what someone's motive would even be to write that statement and then lie about it, but I feel there is no point trying to reason when DRM has made up their mind. Perhaps it would be more constructive to instead focus on the content of the Mercy Ministries page and see if there is a way we can reason and work together to create a more accurate, balanced page on this organisation.

Regarding your statement above, please note that the comment you left from "OO" was done from your account "ollyoxen." You then follow up with a message from your account MSB in the same format as "OO." So, I am unsure of what "your" motive is and why "you" would lie about it. Regardless, I will still work with you to reach a consensus on the article content. Please see my message below. --DownRightMighty (talk) 21:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DRM, if you don't mind, I was wondering if you are able to firstly tell me if you feel you have any special insight into this topic, and if so, what gives you that insight or why do you feel you have insight? I am quite knowledgeable on the controversies in Australia and the US which are well documented by considerable media coverage.

DRM, I propose that we go through each section of the article, one by one, and discuss each one on the talk page for the article. Are you agreeable to this? I don't think that anyone can be 100% objective and diversity is important, but I am willing to work towards a more balanced article on Mercy Ministries.

MissSherryBobbins

My insight is based on the references that I have found online while looking at information about MMOA. If you are quite knowledgeable outside of the online references, then I would suggest that you first become familiar with Wikipedia Conflict of Interest Policies [1]. If you have a conflict of interest, you can still edit the article, but it must be done from a neutral point of view. If there is something that you have against MMOA, then please take it up in a forum outside of Wikipedia as Wikipedia is not to be used to prove a point [2]. If you notice, I left information about controversy in the article. The reason for this is to keep the article neutral. Regarding the content that I placed in the article, there is no need for me to go through each paragraph as I left comments when adding the information the reason why the information was added. You understandably object which I see from your reverts of my edits. If you object with the content, then please tell me what you feel is not neutral or what information you feel should be added or removed. We can then discuss that issue which I have no problem with as Wikiepdia is an encyclopedia with neutral content, not a place to take out grievances. If you can leave the comments on my talk page I would appreciate it. I do not get that much of a chance to check in at Wikipedia but I will at least once a day to check your message. In the meantime, I will come up with a shorter text of the funding section per the other editor's recommendation and will also come up with a list of references that are more independent. I will let you know what I come up so you will have a chance to look at that as well. --DownRightMighty (talk) 21:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]