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Crystal Cave (Wisconsin)

Hey I was wondering why you keep deleting the edit in Crystal Cave (Wisconsin). People tell me how to cite it correctly and I would love to do it right! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellie.cunningham (talkcontribs) 23:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The material you are adding appears to be original research - a narrative of a tour sourced to the tour guide providing it. What is needed are third party reliable sources. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 23:15, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How is a tour guide at the cave not reliable? They have to know the ins and the outs of the cave, or they lose their job. Please inform me on how to make it a real citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellie.cunningham (talkcontribs) 23:26, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need a reliable source (follow the link). Also see no original research for additional relevant information. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 23:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm citing him because he has an actual source. That's how sources work. He is reliable, not to your standards but he is, and its not original research. I am sitting next to him as he tells me the information because he works there. What source are you recommending I use over the actual tour guide? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellie.cunningham (talkcontribs) 23:39, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can make claims of sitting next to someone, or themselves being someone with first-hand knowledge. Simply saying we should take your word for the truth is not citing a reliable source. What are needed are published sources. The reliable source policy is directly related to our policy on verifiability. On top of that, the material being added is at best a marketing narrative for the tour, not actually about the cave itself. It's material that simply doesn't belong on Wikipedia. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 00:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CP report

You reported SurgiScope at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 January 19. However, the source appears to be (CC BY 3.0). It may need attribution, and there may be question about whether the source is reliable, but I don't think it is a copyvio. Do you think I've missed something?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I overlooked that site being CC BY 3.0; for some reason, I thought I saw a different tagging on that page.
You are correct, the only issue here is attribution (which is still technically a copyvio, but one that can be easily resolved). --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 15:17, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I hoped it was that simple, but wanted to double-check. I'll add a ref.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:32, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know what I need to change to make my edit to Pong Beer reliable? I added one the other day and changed it so that it didn't sound promotional. I would really appreicate your feedback.