Talk:Billy Talent

Billy Talent Category

In terms of the categories this article has been listed in, I would argue that Billy Talent is hardly a hardcore punk group. Inanechild 23:48, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Billy Talent is not a punk Rock group, they are more of a hard rock. Punk music barely hits the mainstream with the same impact as Billy Talent did.--Quena@sympatico.ca 00:21, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite, Watoosh (while they were Pezz) was an odd form of punk rock, and their first album as Billy Talent had distinctly more emo influences, making them sort of hardcore punk (since emo is based off hardcore punk). They aren't hard rock, that's apples and oranges. Anyway, overall, the only consistent thing you can say is that they're a punk band. --24.223.144.215 20:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Billy Talent looks just like another Simple Plan or Blink 182. I believe "Punk Rock" is becoming more of a look than a genre of music. Correction officer06 20:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, if you're gonna have a valid argument, you need to back yourselves up. Nobody here has anything besides complaints about mainstream punk. Hard rock isn't hardcore. "punk rock" is a genre, not a bunch of mainstream emo bands. Hopefully I'm not picking a fight here, but there's nothing here to suggest anything should be changed.--128.146.68.89 18:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Punk Rock is exactly a group of emo bands. Is it that hard to realize that every group is painted black and sings about suicide? No matter their reason or intention, thay all look(and sound) the same. When people think of emo people, they get that image. For example, if you placed the Trgically Hip in Dickies clothes and whisped black hair, you've built yourself a rootin' tootin' emo band. The music is becoming less of a factor, and the look is becoming more of it. What are you supposed to expect? Correction officer06 17:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I really don't want to be brought into this argument. Music arguments always degenerate because they can't be resolved, it's all a matter of perspective. That said, I'm going to carefully state this. Punk rock has more diversity than mainstream emo bands display, and some 30-years of history. They cannot be defined by some emo band like Fallout Boy. It's unfair to make broad generalizations, especially considering you seem to be only familiar with popular emo bands you dislike.

This is all beyond the point. An argument on what punk rock "is" should be in the Talk:Punk_rock section. It doesn't matter here because none of this changes Billy Talent's genre. The Internet doesn't need another meaningless argument, I won't post here again.

On a side note, I thought you were referencing The Dickies, which is ironic beyond belief. Can't say I've ever heard of Dickies clothing. --128.146.68.89 00:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter what so ever if they are punk-emo-hardcore-whatever. That has nothing to do with any of it being that those lables are just for organizational reasons. What really matters is what the lyrics and sounds and voices make you feel. That's why they call music a strand of art. It is a piece that will give you stong vibes of emotion. Like Nothing to Lose- is about a kid being teased and bullied at school then commits suicide, Devil in a Midnight Mass- is about a child predator working as a preist. Bands are not at all about trying to 'be something'. It's about making an impact on people to find emotion in a topic. -Erica-Jean M. -15 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EJ MACZ (talk • contribs) 21:24, 24 May 2006.

I think that billy talent needs to get two things a. a life b. some girlfriendsInstitute representative 17:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prereleased Music

I have to disagree, there is no reliable source that the two songs 'Devil In a Midnight Mass' and 'Surrender' are on the internet at this current moment in time.

He's right (whoever it is you're talking about). I know, I heard them both. --24.223.144.215 07:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent

This is one of the best bands to come out of Canada,period.