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/ɜ/ and /ɛ̈/

Does the symbols /ɜ/ and /ɛ̈/ pronounce as the same way ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They may or may not mean the same sound. The most accurate way to learn this is to compare vowel charts. Or F1/F2 formants, if that's your thing... Unfortunately I'm puzzled about the latter. --Ahls23 (talk) 21:08, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think this pronunciation is [ʏn fɛ̈t] ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 22:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe. Standard European French /ɛ/ is somewhat raised and retracted (=centralized) [ɛ̝̈]. Quebec vowel is probably similar. Or the same. Who knows. Look for the vowel chart, I've never found any. Otherwise I would've posted it already. --Ahls23 (talk) 22:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You hear [ivɛ̈ːʁ] or [ivaɛ̯ʁ] in this audio ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 22:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hear something like [ivæːʁ]. Ahls23 (talk) 22:39, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You hear [pœtɛːtʀ] or [pœtaɪ̯tʀ] ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 23:03, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The latter. Is it a quiz or what? --Ahls23 (talk) 23:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I want to know that you think Quebec accent is normal or strange. 198.105.116.142 (talk) 23:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't speak a word of French so my opinion is of no relevance here. In fact, I don't have an opinion about this - for reason I've already pointed out. --Ahls23 (talk) 23:44, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This one is difficult to guess that is [tãpaɪ̯t] or [tãpei̯t] ? 198.105.116.142 (talk) 23:52, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, I can clearly hear the first "option" - but have you read my reply? --Ahls23 (talk) 23:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've read your reply. 198.105.116.142 (talk) 00:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PROTEST

On this Wikipedia hard to offend some people and their national languages​​, ignoring the facts and international documents. The fact that the Serbian and Croatian two different standard languages, here it does not matter how big the difference is, it deals with linguistics. Why did you lie about that?

What are these languages: http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomo%C4%87:Sadr%C5%BEaj http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%9B:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%98

See official international documents:

  1. https://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/indo-european
  2. http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php
  3. http://euobserver.com/news/31343
  4. http://hrv.nsk.hr/dokumenti/Sluzbeno-prihvacanje-izmjena-ISO-639-2-Registration-Authority.pdf
  5. http://www.danshort.com/ie/iesatem.htm
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