User talk:Sean.hoyland

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Hi Sean

I see no reason to doubt your repeated assertion that this disruptive editor is a sock of Lutrinae. But I am not familiar enough with the puppeteer to take this further. Could you submit an SPI, so that this sock can be blocked and the disruption curtailed? RolandR (talk) 09:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's much point filing an SPI to be honest and the evidence would need to be dealt with off-wiki. I'm not sure the cost vs benefit is right yet. They'll come straight back as they've done many times before. Their disruption was pretty low level and manageable over the past weeks and months but they are definitely becoming more disruptive. I still think it's manageable but I don't think people should waste time discussing content issues. What I would like to happen is for them to stop, having realized that deception is wrong and pointless, and then stay stopped or else the futile SPI->block cycle will just keep repeating. The problem seems to be that they don't make decisions the same way the vast majority of people do. They can't see (or just don't care about) the difference between what is allowed here and what isn't when the rules apply to their behavior. There's a word for that. So, I'm trying various things to see what happens. If it doesn't work, which is likely, I'll contact an admin involved in the previous cases but I have thousands of things I would rather spend my time on. You too probably. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Striving

To exert much effort or energy; endeavor. I guess you have failed. AgadaUrbanit (talk) 22:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]