Talk:December 2013 North American storm complex

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Expansion of the article

There's a discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Toronto blackout (2013) that that article should be merged into this article with that article's subsequent deletion. This article should have a section impact on cities with a subsection for each city and that whole article should turn into the subsection 'Toronto' of this article execpt for the part of the introduction of that article that states that freezing rain added weight to tree branches causing them to fall off with some of them tearing down power lines and that information should instead go into the introduction of this article. Blackbombchu (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete introduction

The sentence 'The ice from the freezing rain built up on tree branches and added so much weight to some of them that they fell off and some of them tore down power lines.' belongs in the introduction, not the 'Ontario' subsection. It would be better to mention the total number of people who went without power in the introduction and just the number of people in Toronto who went without power in the Ontario section. Maybe the total number of people who lost power should be mentioned in the introduction and the number of people in Ontario, not Toronto who lost power should be listed in the Ontario subsection. Blackbombchu (talk) 22:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True, I'll move it to the proper section, also get some info on the Ontario residents without power. ///EuroCarGT 22:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now it doesn't say anywhere in the article how the ice storm lost power to so many residents. Blackbombchu (talk) 23:46, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add that! I'll look into it as well. ///EuroCarGT 00:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Customers versus Residents

It is important to distinguish between "customers", which are basically billing addresses, and "residents", who are actual people. On average, every customer represents about 2.5 residents. The 300,000 customers that lost power in Toronto would therefore represent about 750,000 people without power.

@173.33.100.15: That is important. I did change that certain text to residents because no source represents them as customer. ///EuroCarGT 01:08, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for assessment

May I please request someone to request for assessment of this article in Disaster Management, or even better, do it themselves? It would help the article. Thanks. CanadianDude1 (talk) 02:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like they are inactive, is backlogged. So it will take some time. ///EuroCarGT 02:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Images

May anyone introduce images of the ice storm on their effects on trees, power lines, etc.? Thanks. CanadianDude1 (talk) 03:39, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Commons seems to have no storm-related photos except for maps. We'll need to wait for uploading a work found on Flickr or by a bot. ///EuroCarGT 03:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Title?

Since this article mentions Canada and the US, I think we should rename the article to 2013 North American ice storm/2013 Canada and US ice storm, or something like that. CanadianDude1 (talk) 18:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That could be possible. We'll wait for a consensus. ///EuroCarGT 21:12, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No deaths in Canada related to freezing rain

There were no deaths in Canada related to freezing rain from this storm. There was 6 traffic related deaths in Quebec but none were from freezing rain. Since this article is about the "ice storm" that struck "Central and Eastern Canada" none of the none ice storm related deaths or deaths in the US should be counted in this article unless the article is renamed and restructured. 70.53.73.73 (talk) 23:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]