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AFC Dave Holmes (Professor of Nursing)

Hello. Thanks for your comment. I'm somewhat confused by part of it:

If Holmes is indeed an author, then the article should list books he has written.

The three books are clearly noted in the Bibliography section. I'm not quite sure how you might have missed them. Perhaps I could move the Bibliography section higher in the article?

This article contains too many non-notable details.

It would help to know which details you feel are non-notable, so that I can either defend their inclusion or editing.

The article needs to be condensed to show only notable accomplishments per Wikipedia guidelines

In response to your comment, I've just been through Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) again, and I can only see reason TO include Professor Holmes, and nothing to indicate that he's NOT notable. Indeed, there are many single criteria that Professor Holmes meets in Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) that on their own indicate notability and inclusion. Despite the caution about Google Scholar, a glance of http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Dave+Holmes clearly shows citation in many peer-reviewed academic journals in his field. In fact, the article notes that Professor Holmes so well regarded and notable that he was the editor of one of those journals, effectively being the gatekeeper of what the peer-reviewed journals would and would not accept for publication.

That he is a FULL professor with tenure AND holds the University chair of his field clearly makes him notable per the Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) guidelines, too. Professor Holmes's membership of the peer review committee of CIHR (the Canadian Institute of Health Research, the primary health research funding body in Canada) would also seem to make Professor Holmes notable per Wikipedia:Notability_(academics). This important details are in the article, but in a chronological fashion, so as to demonstrate the progression of his career and notability. I'm not sure what else I can do in that respect. If there are specific items/lines that you feel do not add information about this notable person, I'd be very happy to discuss their inclusion in the article with you.

Perhaps the Graduate teaching section could be eliminated, but the Conferences and Committees, Editorial and Review, and Disctincions and Awards sections all address specific guidelines in Wikipedia:Notability_(academics). They are put together to clearly tell the story of why Professor Holmes is notable.

From Wikipedia:Notability_(academics):

Criteria:

1. Met. See citations, etc..

2. Met. See distinctions and awards in his field.

3. Met. Membership of review committee of CIHR, for example.

4. Met. See published work (representative examples of which are in the article) and citations, etc..

5. Met. Professor holds the named chair, University Research Chair in Forensic Nursing, at the University of Ottawa.

6. Met. Professor Holmes is the Director, School of Nursing, University of Ottawa. He is also the Associate Dean of that faculty.

7. Met. For example, see the Conferences and Committees section.

8. Met. Professor Holmes was the Editor-in-Chief of Aporia – The Nursing Journal.

9. Not applicable.


General Notes:

Bullet 1: Met. Please verifiable references have been provided in the article.

Bullet 2: Met. As the article clearly shows, Professor Holmes is clearly notable both as a teacher, theorist, and researcher in his field.

Bullet 3: Met. Not applicable, given the foregoing.


Specific criteria notes:

1. Met. Significant effect is in evidence both in the number of citations of published articles and research, and the positions he has held in the field.

2. Met. Please see the Distinctions and Awards section.

3. Met. Please see the Conferences and Committees section, not least of which is membership in CIHR committees.

4. Met. Professor Holmes not only teaches Graduate classes at his university but is published and cited on theories of teaching in his field.

5. Met. Professor Holmes holds the named chair: University Research Chair in Forensic Nursing, at the University of Ottawa.

6. Met. Professor Holmes is Director of the School of Nursing at the University of Ottawa.

7. Met. Professor Holmes was the Editor-in-Chief of Aporia – The Nursing Journal.


Citation metrics:

A careful examination of http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Dave+Holmes shows that the caution about Google Scholar is not applicable in the case of Professor Holmes.

I believe that almost all the listed bullets in the article, perhaps with the exception of the Graduate Teaching section address notability, but I'm more than happy to discuss in/exclusion of any given bullet of the article.

I look forward to any other comments out might have about the article or my reply. :-)