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Revisions to local derby

Hi

I've decided to start this talk page about the revisions to local derby list - this was supposed to be a famous derby list, with the matches being from a general consensus of web pages of the most notable ones. Any new changes were supposed to be handled into the linked Local derby page.

On the last revision by 62.214.230.57 the Al-Ahly - Zamalek game has been taken out. Can anyone explain why this has been done?

Master Of Ninja 20:46, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Reorganisation of the article

Hi again

This article has come a long way from where it started. Unfortunately Wikipedia is now complaining the article may be too long for comfortable viewing. So where once this article had to be split off from the main football (soccer) topic, it may be time to move sections to articles of their own. At the same time it may be good to re-organise sections, as well as re-edit them just to make them flow. Comments or suggestions? - Master Of Ninja 17:55, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Good idea. A lot of bits-and-pieces have been added to this article over a fairly short time (obviously a popular topic!), making it long and somewhat clunky. It could do with a good clean-up, removal of questionable/POV material, and heirachy re-order. Cheers, --Daveb 07:08, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Diving

There should probably be an article, about gamesmanship in football, or perhaps that should be ungentlemanly conduct. Also some stuff about goal celebrations. Jooler 17:09, 26 November 2005 (UTC).[reply]

I created an article on goal celebration. Mark272 03:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cutting down article

The wiki edit page lists this page is over 35k and should be cut down. From an organisational point of view it does need to be a bit streamlined. Does anybody have ideas of how to go about this? We already have a subpage for a lot of sections, but other sections might need it. Plus I think a lot of the info is unneeded - we need criteria of what can be included and what not. A lot of information is just unnecessary miscellaenous overhead at the moment, and I don't think the article should be a list of everything on a particular topic. Comments? - Master Of Ninja 20:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to limit articles to 32k anymore. The original reason for such limits was because on some older browsers couldn't keep more than 32k of text in the edit buffer. For those very few who are still using these older browsers the problem is no longer of any major concern as articles can now be edited in sections. So I wouldn't worry. We have many articles larger than 32k. Football is 52k. WWII is 91k. Jooler 02:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD and merge

If anyone is interested, the previous versions of Players and politic and Clubs and politic (currently are both redirects to here) contain some material that might be interesting according to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Links between politics and football, and that could possibly be merged here. - Liberatore(T) 18:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misbehaviour

There seems to be far too much about misbehaviour on here. Mostly centred on Premier League players and including stuff that was later found to be untrue. Jooler 03:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think like all articles it eventually degenerates into a list of 'news items' where everyone adds what they think is their own (personal) most important bit of information. When the article was first written I think there was some scandal about Premiership players, and a bit about the more famous misbehaviour cases as examples. One problem is that there are obviously more English contributors, so English news gets more priority. We need others to rebalance this. However we actually need criteria for inclusion into the article. Any thoughts on this, or any ideas on what parts of the section to cull? - Master Of Ninja 08:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair Play

"An example of this was the Italian player Paolo Di Canio who, while not given an award, was congratulated in many sections of the football world for a very generous display of "Fair Play"" Di Canio ? Fair play ? I guess it's a joke. Kekel 11:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]