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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Samlibya (talk | contribs) at 11:03, 15 March 2015 (→‎Unsupported allegations "Sadiq Al-Ghariani"). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

There are problems with this page. I am trying for find out about this guy, who I know nothing about, but this page seems to be set up to malign him. It claims: 'he supports violence against women' and then cites articles showing his opposition to a UN report. Which isn't the same thing.

It also claims 'he has made a fatwa against Libyan women marrying foreigners" this maybe true but the citation is a Guardian article that also makes the claim but without evidence. A citation must provide evidence. This appears to be circular. BenkarimUK (talk) 21:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One of the sources used Vivalibya.wordpress.com for at least three references does not have appropriate standing and seems politically motivated.

BenkarimUK (talk) 21:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. Given that you know nothing about this guy, it is thoughtful of you to start your new user account with comments on his talk page.
There was only one piece of information that relied solely on Vivalibya.wordpress.com, which was the violent death of Al-Hadi Al-Asfar. I have added a Libya Herald article to sort that out.
The rest of the article relies on reliable sources. A wide range of news sources are cited. Reliable news sources such as the Guardian do not need to be further sourced. Your argument about the Guardian article being inadequate is therefore not relevant on this talk page. If you feel it isnt a reliable source, go to the talk page on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard
You did make a fair point that he has not publicly supported violence against girls, he has opposed the report opposing violence against girls. I have rephrased the lead paragraph.
Having dealt with all your comments, I shall delete the banner. If you have any further points, please add them on this page (or on the reliable sources talk page, if appropriate)
Contributorzero (talk) 08:33, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I will leave the banner, in case you wish to make any further points. Contributorzero (talk) 08:35, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unsupported allegations "Sadiq Al-Ghariani"

I know this man in person, and I know for fact that most of the information si nothing but allegations, and I know the man behind Libya Herald. I wont mention his name but he belongs to "National Forces Alliance" one of the parties involved in libyan conflict today.

This article states that "has been the Grand Mufti of Libya since 2012. Sadiq Al-ghariani is notable for his opposition to the "UN Report on Violence Against Women and Girls"[1][2][3]"

There is a known fact non muslims mights not know, which is any fatwa or statement from any mufti or grand mufti is officially documented in many forms, either telivised video or phone call, in addition to an official signed document. so you can not submit false allegations, without providing any sorts of evidence that support it in forms of soft copy, video or atleast recorded phone call. Samlibya (talk) 11:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

refferences:

1- http://www.libyaherald.com/2013/03/11/grand-mufti-condemns-un-report-on-violence-against-women/ 

   I couldnt access this website because it is only available for subscribed users. thsrefore, it shouldnt be accepted in wikipedia as it should be the source of free information.

2- Jones, Susan. "Libya's Grand Mufti Issues Fatwa Against U.N. Report on Women's Rights". CNS News. Retrieved 2014-08-16. 

   This article is based on ref no '1'
   qoute "In a statement quoted by the Libya Herald, the Grand Mufti said he "strongly condemns" the report on women, calling it "unjust and destructive."
   
   therfore, it should not be accepted.

3- "Libyan Religious Leader Calls For Gender Segregation". VOA. Retrieved 4 December 2014. 

   same thing here, nothing but false qoutes without any hard proof of this allegations, in addition to selling more lies, for example:
   "Rebel leaders appointed Sheikh Sadeq al-Ghariani grand mufti during the uprising against Col. Gadhafi. He had held the post under Gadhafi as well."
   there was no such position of grand mufti back in Gaddafi's days!!!
   "Ghariani became a critic of Gadhafi as the rebellion gained momentum. When the Libyan despot was captured and slain last October, Ghariani ruled Gadhafi an "infidel” and     unworthy of prayers." 
   That is another lie, since he was buried as muslim based on grand mufti instructions.

I can go on and on, and still you could not find any thing that really support these allegations. this page is set up to malign him. There is no such thing as reliable resources, specially after what we have seen through the years, and i recall the war on Iraq that claimd to have WMD's based on reliable Intel resources!!!. there is only facts, and facts must be supported by hard evidence.

For any information about fatwa or statements of grand mufti, you can visit:

1- The official website of Fatwa Authority in Libya (Dar Al-Ifta) [1]

2- The official facebook page of Fatwa Authority in Libya (Dar Al-Ifta) [2]

3- The official website of Shiekh Sadiq Al-Ghariani [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samlibya (talk • contribs) 11:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.ifta.ly
  2. ^ https://ar-ar.facebook.com/IFTALibya
  3. ^ http://www.tanasuh.com/online/index.php
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