Talk:St Peters Lutheran College

ppl!!! god, stop dissing chorale, the music program is the only thing the school REALLY has to offer. i mean, do u see the rowing team traveling overseas to perform in europe, america etc as the orchestra and chorale etc do? ppl in CANADA know about us. do ppl in canada know about the cross country team? no (ps no offense to the cross country/ rowing ppl).

Photos

Hi everyone, due to the school removing the images that were in breach of copyright law, the article has become dreary. It would be greatly appreciated if students or those associated with the college could upload personal photos. In other words, do not copy images from anywhere else to put on the article. If you took it yourself, feel free to upload it and place it into the article.

And more warnings,

DO NOT VANDALISE!!!! The school will not be happy with you and could take defensive action.

Cheers Campbell 01:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I have noted in the talk area below, I have added photos of Ironbark. I don't have any of the school itself though :( I agree with you; the article is very boring without photos. Perhaps someone could contact the school and ask permission to add photos to Wikipedia for illustrative purposes? Sp0kk 03:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I must also concur, I'm gonna try and get some pictures of the buildings one day, possibly tomorrow Shad3z 03:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ironbark Pictures

I have added pictures from my own collection to the Ironbark section (edit: these are pictures of the burnt Ironbark, and the smoke coming from it), however the formatting is terrible. Someone please fix this up for me, I am not very good at such things. Thankyou :) Sp0kk 13:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Draicone :) You da man! Sp0kk 15:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its time to stop

Ok people, we've had our fun and now is the time that we need to start respecting the article. This site is meant to be used to inform the public about particular things in our world. The first question that comes to mind is: Do we really need this article posted? Personally I think not. Ever since this article was created, it has caused nothing but conflict. This may be because several people have taken to vandalising the site. Although it was funny maybe the first time, but now it is starting to become offensive and needs to stop. There is a line between a few jokes and harrasment and I think some people are coming close to crossing that line.

So I ask all of you, please keep this article clean from now on. It has become out of control when it should not have happened in the first place. Either we leave the article as it is or we get rid of the article entirely. Benprouty 11:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wheres the fun without vandalism ;) It always gets reverted by the ever-vigilant Draicone anyway. *tips hat to Draicone* Sp0kk 13:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well written article

A very well written article indeed. It has captured the spirit of SPLC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.109.19 (talk • contribs)

It is quite a good article if i do say so myself

Great article i know it captures my school spirit and go the 3rds — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.77.219 (talk • contribs)

really great...really great — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.174.14 (talk • contribs)

It would be even better if ppl STOP VANDALIZING. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.98.194 (talk • contribs)

SPLC ROX!!!!!

I like it,

If only they could spell indooroopilly correctly.

Go the Chorale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Labby24 (talk • contribs)

Creation

Who created this section??? I could say he/she knew SPLC and Wikipedia pretty well to start off although the spelling was quite shocking in some areas. I corrected the "Indooroopilly" and "separate" section. Just hope the page won't get VANDALISED!! Last time I saw the Heads of College section saying Mr. Rudolph had forty children. Crazy!! What if he viewed the page then. Gosh!

I've added this page to my watchlist. If anyone vandalises it, I'll know and I won't be happy :) Oh, and please remember to sign your comments with four tildes like this: ~~~~. --Draicone ^(talk) 12:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

who wrote this!!!

OMG WHOS WROTE THIS!!!!!! Our school colors are Moroon and white not red and white!!!!! SBOE- O^o~O (Zen) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SBOEy (talk • contribs) PS it's a really good artical, my congrats to the author

SBOE, this is Wikipedia. Anyone can edit, and while this article is quite good, it lacks sources to confirm the information in the article. I may go through the whole article and correct any incorrect info, being a current/former student. --Draicone ^(talk) 07:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

oh Shut-up S.K. find another place t stick your two bits into!!!

and stop bieng a "i'm so special so I'm going to fix this up" and the rest of the 'hoy-ti toy-ti' stuff. that soounded funny. are you going through every artical I contibute to? *shiffty eyes* YU CAN'T PROVE I DID IT!!!!! *looks inocent*

Bye^_~

SBOE-y O^o~O — Preceding unsigned comment added by SBOEy (talk • contribs)

As a Wikipedian, I must stress to you how important it is to assume good faith, respect others and not make personal attacks upon other editors. Doing so can have you blocked from editing, but since you're new we'll ignore this for now. And your every contribution is logged, so we can prove you did it :D. Oh yes, you're still not signing your comments. Remember the four tildes! ~~~~ --Draicone ^(talk) 09:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grammer

I love it how this page highlights things in a most biased manor whilst putting the english department to shame. Still I fixed a sentance or 2 but I should point out that is no longer the school's logo.

Also, it's also a dead giveaway that the person who wrote this page is in chorale (year 11 judging by a member of my ITS class). I have nothing against chorale but I will find it interested when the school re-write this page wheather or not the information remains. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidSFN (talk • contribs)

The article is not significantly biased, and any obvious bias can be corrected. In addition, as a student you should be aware that the school logo shown is in fact current spare a minor graphical improvement present in the recently introduced portals. --Draicone ^(talk) 07:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ironbark

what is

"... and innocent yet unsupervised inter-gender interaction at night"

about?

inter-gender interaction between students or staff? (or student AND staff? ><)

this might need clarification, if not be omitted altogether. i mean seriously, is it worthy of mention in an article about an outdoor education program?

Look, I added it because it was the most mature way of saying what really happened. Boys rushed off to the girls dorm in the middle of the night, and vice versa. The problem was that there weren't any staff to supervise, hence the 'yet unsupervised', and when they got to each other's dorms they had no idea what to do, hence the 'innocent'. Feel free to remove it, that's what wikipedia is all about. --Draicone ^(talk) 11:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about the ib fires that I got evacuated from :P I really cbf adding anything at the moment, but I feel they should be included. Just a thought.Sp0kk 12:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

K I added a short spiel about the fires. Someone please add more :D Sp0kk 12:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Much Respect Granted

As I really couldn't be bothered to seek out this person at school and give them my respect I'll do it here. Its pure gold.

The first ever Year 9 group experienced Ironbark's first ever real fire evacuation

not quite true, there were year nine groups before ironbark was converted to a year 9 only program

I think what Sp0kk meant that the first ever year 9 group, not the first ever group when the program was year 9 only but back when it was year 9+10, were the aforementioned group. Sp0kk hasn't actually said that there weren't year 9 groups before it was a year 9 only program; in fact, he hasn't mentioned anything about the year 9 only aspect at all. --Draicone ^(talk) 09:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps, but i am pretty surethe first ever group of yr 9s (when ironbark went year 9 only) was the first group to experience the fires - it was after i had been , and they had to stay the night in crows nest town hall or somewhat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.145.146 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was there dude :P It was the first EVER when the previous groups that year were yr 10s. Sp0kk 12:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes, the fire was in 2004? that means there were PREVIOUS YEAR NINE GROUPS (there were always 2 year nine classes (9P and 9S) and 6 year 10 (A-F) classes that went each year), and hence your group was not the "first ever year 9 group". 60.240.145.146 05:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The current wording is fine by me, and I do not wish to continue this argument. Sp0kk 15:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

music program - POV dispute

The neutrality of this section is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page.

why is it disputed? i added a citation needed tag to "The St Peters Chorale is claimed to be one of Australia's best non-professional youth choirs" , but other than that line i see no reason for a POV ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.145.146 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's why:

St Peters values the musical talents of its students

It would be impossible to support that claim, since it is subjective.

and has extensive facilities in place to cater for the needs of the 2000+ student body

Again, this is subjective. Cite the number of students, sure, but you'll do better describing the facilities rather than lauding them.

Graduates of St Peters now fill leading positions in Australian and overseas orchestras

That statement is too sweeping. Cite examples rather than trying to make it sound impressive. Inline citations would really help as well. -Harmil 06:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is disputed because I am disputing it. One citation is never enough, and encyclopaedia articles cannot be biased. For example, even if it is true (which it most likely is), you cannot say, "Linux operating systems are the most powerful desktop OSes in the world," as it seems undoubtedly biased. In the same way does the music section of this article. --Draicone ^(talk) 21:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Draicone on this - the section is full of loaded phrases. At the least they need to be reworded into something like it is reported that xxxxx' with an appropriate reference. My preference is to edit the section with an axe but I'd prefer to see where consensus leads us first. - Peripitus (Talk) 00:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that the entire article is written from a biased point of view, like saying that the school (though probably true) has '...fully-featured boarding houses...', and '...a dramatic addition of facilities...'. Are such adjectives needed like dramatic and fully-featured? The boarding houses would most likely not be in use were they not fully-featured. Sp0kk 03:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright laws

The images breaking copyright laws on this page have been deleted please do not restore them, thankyou. "Unauthorised production in whole or in part of the information on this website including without limitation, photographs, is an infringement of copyright. Except as permitted under the Copyright Act 1968 (Cth), no part of this website may be reproduced by any process, electronic or otherwise, without the specific written permission of the Copyright Owner. Neither may all or part of the information contained within this website, including without limitation, photographs, be stored electronically in any form whatsoever without written permission of the copyright owner." copyright act followed by the website which the photos were taken off.

A sysop has, on my request, tagged these images as copyright violations. If you would like them to be deleted quicker, please contact the wikimedia foundation. --Draicone ^(talk) 20:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the zeal for removing images, the logo (shield) was removed from the main infobox. This image is correctly tagged and sourced as a logo. Logos are legitimate fair use for Wikipedia, and are used extensively. Further, please cite Wikipedia policy when removing images, not laws. Unless you are a lawer with specific knowledge of the impact of Florida state law (where Wikipedia is hosted), U.S. copyright law, and international copyright law, trying to assert the legality or illegality of any usage is probably a minefield you don't want to step in. Instead, we have distilled the impact of these laws into site policy which can be viewed at WP:COPY. Thank you, and happy editing! -Harmil 16:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]