User talk:65.31.100.170

Impersonation

Please don't impersonate other members of Wikipedia. Thank-you. For testing, using the sandbox. --Thorpe | talk 10:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Everybody Hates Chris

Oh yeah! so accurate was the information that Tonya's name was spelled wrong. I had to point that out and Gamaliel corrected it. Anyhow, next time you leave a message on my talk userpage I would appreciate it if you signed it. If you look down to the running gags section, you'll see that area describes the characters as well. That's pretty sad that you have dumb down society by TWICE repeating the same information. TripleH1976 16:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

WARNING

You have recently vandalized a Wikipedia article, and you are now being asked to stop this type of behavior. You're welcome to continue editing Wikipedia, so long as these edits are constructive. Please see Wikipedia's Blocking policy and what constitutes vandalism; such actions are not tolerated on Wikipedia, and are not taken lightly.

We hope that you will become a legitimate editor. Again, you are welcome here at Wikipedia, but remember not to vandalize or you will soon be blocked from editing.

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The following two edits are considered Vandalism [1], [2].

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. The following edits by you are considered attacks [3], [4], [5]

Calling a stylistic edit to remove that some people may see as unencyclopedic 'vadalism' and threatening to report someone for it [[6]] is considered an attack. It would have been better to politely invite them to discuss the issue on the talk page before making more changes. The same applies here [7] - remember that you do not [[WP:OWN|own any article], so strong language is uncalled for.

Likewise, this edit is considered too provocative - laughing at the removal of vandalism is not really fair, now, is it? [8]

Stating something as fact and encouraging people to 'leave it' without providing any reference [9] can also be seen as provocative and potentially an attack.

The following edit [10], whilst not an attack as such, could be taken as being inflamatory. I advise that you state such things in a calmer manner in the future.

The following edit [11], whilst again not an attack, does not seem worded to encourage civility.

Some good edits by you can be found at the following: [12], [13], [14] Please do stay on and try to make more good contributions - you seem like a good editor, it would be a shame if a few more personal attacks and provocations soured your name.

LinaMishima 17:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I was the admin that LinaMishima consulted, and I wanted to say how impressed I was with your mature and candid response to her message above. No harm done and we move on. I think it would be a good time to get a user name, as you can leave those edits behind and start as you mean to go on. Happy editing. Tyrenius 18:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm flattered. I didn't realise you were such a new user, according to your contribution history. A lot of tolerance is extended to well-meaning new users, as it's not expected that they will tune into things straightaway, and I'm sorry you saw bad examples which led you astray. I'm sure you'll see plenty more, in which case the best thing is to leave a warning and remind people of WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. You can let me know if you want for backup in such cases. Calm rational argument is the strongest approach. There's some useful guides here. If you get a user name, feel free to let me know what it is if you want (you can email me if you don't want to broadcast the fact). But anyway you know where I am. Tyrenius 19:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

No, there's far worse. By the way, new talk always goes at the bottom, and if you put 4 tildes ~~~~ after your post, it signs your user name automatically with the date. Tyrenius 20:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:SHY

Take a look at WP:SHY, WP:NOSHY and Wikipedia:Don't be shy (all the same article, first two are redirects) ;) Feel free to try and help improve it! LinaMishima 13:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

RE:

I am not vandalizing the Mark Calaway article. See Tonatares talk page for more.

--Mikedk9109 13:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

I don't see the vandalism. Edit disputes are not vandalism. If there is any, please supply the diffs.

To record a diff, find the edit in the edit history and copy the URL at the top of the page. Then put a square bracket either end, as in this example:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyrenius&diff=63910624&oldid=63910146]

Tyrenius 13:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Block

You have been blocked from editing for violating Wikipedia policy by using this account to circumvent the block on your account User:Tonetare. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}}. You may also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list instead. Your original account was blocked for 1 week initially for your abusive behaviour. For trying to avoid the block, this has been increased to 2 weeks for this account.

You are offering to be my friend, but you have told me that you do not want to be my friend. You have been viciously abusive to me, as in your last message on User talk:Tonetare, besides earlier. You have been equally abusive to other users. This behaviour is not welcome on wikipedia, and as long as you do it, you are not welcome.

When this block expires in two weeks, you can come back and, if you act courteously, all this can be put in the past. At that time, I will unblock User:Tonetare if you want to use it again. If you prefer, you can come back with a new name and start afresh. We all have our differences and must learn to deal with them without going berserk. You don't realise how much tolerance was extended to you, and that people really didn't want to see you get into trouble, but you made it unavoidable. If you want to progress, then listen to and learn from people who know a lot more about wikipedia and writing articles than you do. Tyrenius 16:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius, if you unblock me now, I will come back and do as you wish and I will even let you be my friend again. I was justified in my abusive edits toward everyone as well as you. But I've been able to vent them and now I am calm and peaceful and ready to accept apologies and whatnot. You and I can work on a friendship and get to the bottom of everything peacefully. I still believe you were supposed to defend me in that incident not only because I was right, but because we DID have respect for each other. But if you choose to keep me blocked for 2 weeks with an intent to punish me, I'm afraid I will never be your friend and I won't experience this punishment as I can easily eschew the block. I could have eschewed this block if I wanted to, but I missed you and wanted to recover our friendship. So I hope to come back in a couple of hours to be unblocked. I would love to be your friend again. And maybe we can discuss some rules for our new-found friendship if you unblock me so we can have a peaceful relationship. 65.31.100.170 19:00, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

do you have an answer for me Tyrenius? If you value our friendship, you'll unblock me. 65.31.100.170 03:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius as you have not answered in the last 24 hours, I am taking this as a "no." I will not be your friend when I come back after 8 hours to get rid of the block and you will also not be able to find out who I am. bye forever dude! Hope you aren't this way with any other of your so-called friends. 65.31.100.170 12:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocks aren't punishment. They're preventative. They're to stop more abuse. There's no excuse for abuse. You have to learn you can't get your own way all the time. You can't bully people, or wheedle your way round them. The only way to get respect is to give it. As long as you say, "I was justified in my abusive edits toward everyone as well as you," you're going to be a loser on wikipedia. I'm just telling it like it is. Tyrenius 04:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius, I haven't undone the wires yet because I knew it wasn't like you to not answer me. You are a nice person which is really why I can't understand your behavior in the past 2 weeks or however long it's been since this all started. I don't expect to get my way all the time. I expect to get my way when I'm right. I've even showed you plenty of times that I know when I can't get my way all the time such as in the incident with LinaMashina where I quickly correct my self and we become friends. I knew she was right and respected her. I thought I was being a little too rude and unlike you and Charlesknight didn't start bringing up whose been here longer, whose done this longer, etc. However, when I toned it down, and didn't respond to Charlesknight but went to you and was very civil about it, complaining about HIM for the SAME reason (being too rude). You did nothing but bring up his experience and express respect for him for venerability. That was my original complaint if you recall and other people even mentioned he was confrontational in his edits. You are so quick to tell me to stop that kind of behavior, but didn't at all with him. I really haven't been a loser on wikipedia );) as everytime someone has blocked me for the last year, even indefinitely for unfair situations like this one I'm in right now, I have come back and put all of my edits and eventually got my way in the end. All I'm saying is, do you want to be my friend or not? I'm not holding a grudge with you or anyone else. No, I don't like Charlesknight but that's life. Other than that incident, You're a good administrator and I like you. To be honest, I do feel bad about calling you some of the names and ignoring you. And, I apologize for THAT. So will you unblock me FOR the purposes of us being friends or... 65.31.100.170 20:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope. You've gone too far this time with your abuse. You switch from being perfectly reasonable as above to totally vicious. You've got to sort it out. You've got 2 weeks to do so. Your edits needed correction to become encyclopedic in content and style. Charlesknight was correct in his evaluation and his work. He was a bit abrasive and has acknowledged that. That is the end of that story. Tyrenius 00:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Is something going on Tonetare? What happend after I left on vacation? ForestH2 t/c 23:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

what happened was I was willing to help you completely with your problem with the user you weren't getting along with and you weren't willing to do the same. Sure you said you were willing to but that turned out to be a lie. I saw all the messages you sent. You weren't helping me at all in any of your messages you sent to other people. They were pretty much against me. Anyway, I can't deal with this shitty wikipedia anymore. can't! I can't count on friends on Wikipedia or even the freaking administrators. The administrators suck and so do you and everyone else so I have been working on my own website as of late. Usually, I would just change my IP address to get rid of the block but I really don't have time for this shit anymore. After much thought about all the bullshit that goes on here, I'm done with this place. by the way, good luck finding another friend Forrest. later! 65.31.100.170 03:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm very sad to hear that. No, I wanted to be your friend, but I don't try to side with people because I saw through both you and Charlesknight. I knew you were going to get blocked indef. by ArbCom but since you wanted to do it, you decidedd to do it. Your words were completly annoying on my userpage when you vandalized it, and what you said to Charlesknight. The one thing the community strives upon here: Making this a better encylopedia. Not criticzing people. From the very beginning you seemed to want to take control of this place. You only wanted to annoy people like me, Mikedk9109, Tryenius, and Charlesknight. Word after word...hopefully you'll come back in six months and can I see your new website? I really like you...Tonetare but I don't when you say mean things about other people. ForestH2 t/c 13:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I know you don't try to side with people. That's why I said you were full of bullshit when you said you would help me out. Anyway, hell naw, I'm not coming back here in sixth months and I am sure not bringing you damned wikipedians to my wesbite, at least all you assholes I dealt with in the last situation. 65.31.100.170 16:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

That is what personal attacking is. If you were to stop doing this and be more friendly, I would make more of a deal and try and get you unblocked. Stop using bad words against us, and I will keep helping you out but if you keep attacking me, I won't help you. ForestH2 t/c 18:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Forest, I can get my self unblocked whenever I want to. It's very easy actually. You don't think back when I wanted to be on wikipedia, that I sat back and waited for blocks to expire when administrator's blocked me do you? oh hell no. I've been treated like crap a lot more than just on that last situation. The only real reason I tried to stay here and not get blocked was because I knew you. If I get my self unblocked, I must use a new user name and therefore you won't know me in less I blow my cover. So all that arguing was so I could stay here and we could help each other out. How do you feel knowing you didn't help me out so I could stay here to help you out, hm? I didn't have to do all that arguing. Ordinarily, I'd have cursed those 2 out, got blocked, and come back within a day under a new identity. But you and I were friends, but you made comments like 'oh Tonetare's only shown politeness to Tyrenius from what I've seen' and other little bitchy remarks. 65.31.100.170 21:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you just unplug the wires. I can get you unblocked very easliy, as Tonetare, can't I? Why do you care if you help me? You called me an asshole in your last post...well I assume thinking we were still friends you would tell me your new username. I could get you unblocked right now; but since you made that personal attack against me, I don't know if I really want to do it. Of course, I can help you out right now; I suggested mediation and arbitration for Charlesknight, I was helping you out there. I want to help you- but I don't know if I should because you've only been rude to me; and can you give me the edit that I said "oh, Tonetare's shown politeness only to Tryenius from what I've seen?' And other bitchy remarks? ForestH2 t/h/c 22:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Those weren't your exact words. The exact words were like 'good will' or good something. Oh yea 'good faith.' You said he's only shown good faith to Tyrenius. I mean, what was going on with you and saying that? You said other things like he is going to arbcom but I think he will lose and he doesn't really have anything to say. I mean, you said that in front of other people. At first, I thought you were one of Charlesknight's cronies and didn't make much of it, but then I looked and saw "Forest" and was like... I just got up off the computer and went to go ask my dad how to create my own website because everyone on here is driving me insane. Anyway, how can you get me unblocked? You're not an administrator. If you're talking about going to an administrator or someone like that, don't. No administrators are helpful here. By the way friends get upset at each other and call each other nasty names sometimes when there upset. ;) 65.31.100.170 16:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well you did say some mean words to me and Charlesknight like assholes. And you don't even show good faith to Tryenius anymore. I knew you were going to lose at arbcom but you were desprite for something...I know how to get you unblocked even if I'm not an admin. But first your behavior has to get better. ForestH2 t/h/c 23:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

No dude, that was after the fact and you are fully aware of what I said being after the fact. You brought up things I did after you had went around making comments to other people. And I didn't know what you were talking about with arbcom anyway so what are you talking about desperate for? You brought up all that stuff to me and I was barely paying attention to it and didn't have any intention of going through it because it seemed like too much work. You kept on and on about it regardless of me saying 'for now, I'll see what happens and won't do that now.' You were going around saying he is going to arbcom and he has nothing to say on arbcom. What was going on with that situation was you were putting words in my mouth and persuading me to go there regardless of me not really wanting to. That whole arbcom thing I had nothing to do with. Anyway, you don't seem to be very apologetic and I can't trust you anyway. As I said, I don't need you to unblock me. If I want to come back here and edit something, I am more than capable. Frankly, I don't want to come back here now since your last post wasn't an apologetic. bye! 65.31.100.170 23:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter excatly on me. You never asked me to stop saying stuff on arbcom, so I owe you an apology for not realising that you didn't want to do arbcom. ForestH2 t/h/c 02:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

RIGHT! That's half of why I want an apology. You were putting words in my mouth saying how I was going to arbcom but how I would probably lose. You were going around telling people that, when I was telling you I'm not sure about all that. You kept persuading me to do that apparently while thinking I would be unsuccessful in it. You made the fact that you thought I would be unsuccessful very clear in your posts to other people might I add. VERY SUPPORTIVE! Another thing I want an apology for is the rest of the comments that you made, looking as if you're on Charlesknight's side. "Oh, he's only shown good faith to Tyrenius from what I've seen. Charlesknight is an experienced editor," and all the rest. Come to think of it, everything you said was only helpful towards Charlesknight because you were also giving him warnings about what you thought my plans were. "Oh, he is going to arbcom" which lets him know everything. How is that helpful to me? If I do have plans to do something, you don't go blabbing them to everyone saying you think they will backfire on me. How on god's green earth is that helpful? 65.31.100.170 03:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you do. So he can make a statement to defend himself in front of arbcom. ForestH2 22:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok! Let's end this. Forest, I'm happy working on my own website. I don't like wikipedia. Even if I did come back, it would still be all the same rules and stuff. The owner's of wikipedia, who are probably smart rational adults like my self should only be allowed to block people and have all the administrative duties. They shouldn't just pick administrator's and blockers by whose had a good reputation here. There is a lot of terrible administration here, terrible rules, terrible ideas to solve problems, etc. You and I don't seem to get along and I hate this place so I'm probably never coming back. Anyway, thanx for everything. Bye! 65.31.100.170 00:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Your not the only person who hates this place. I do. I'm creating my own website just like you; and I hate this website and I'm never coming back. I retired indefintely today. ForestH2 00:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, he suggests Myspace? Does your new website have some sort of chat room we could use? ForestH2 t/h/c 14:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

lol, everyone talks about myspace. That must be so common. So it's needless to say, I don't have myspace and my website doesn't have such a thing yet. I am still putting that whole thing together. Rrrrrrr, I guess if Tyrenius will unblock me, we could just stay here. Rrrrr, at wikipedia, rrrrr. lol! I mean, I'd be willing to help you with anybody that's bugging you on wikipedia. So whenever you can come back from dealing with what's going on in your life, you can click here if there's some wikipedian bothering you, and I'll back you up. :) However, I don't want to add any contributions here though. What's the point? everyone's contributions get erased after awhile when you think about it. 65.31.100.170 17:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'll come here if a Wikipedian's bothering me. Contributins don't get erased, I guess they do. By means of nobody's going to care what you did on January 8, 2005. Well your unblocked in a few days. ForestH2 22:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)~

Sounds good Forest. Happy editing because it sure as hell will be for me on my own damn website. lol :) 65.31.100.170 04:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I might create an aol website soon. Also, I might create some other website other than Wikipedia. I mean there are so many options, aol, my space etc. I'll let you know what I do. ForestH2 t/h/c 13:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Chat

Do you think you could continue the chat off site by email or something? A bit of socialising is OK, but it's excessive, and nothing to do with wiki. ForestH2 has suggested removing the text, which is fine with me, as it's just personal stuff, but, if you do, please keep the block notice on the page. Thanks. Tyrenius 02:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

uuhhh, have you been like reading our whole discussion? This isn't a page about Steve Irwin (Lord rest his soul) or CORAL SMITH. This is my personal page. Are you going to edit it too? I don't understand why you're following me around. I am indefinitely blocked now (P.S. I say indefinitely ONLY because I do not want to come back here) and I have my own website. The whole issue with Charlesknight started because you wouldn't do your job as an administrator. Sure, there are going to be editors I disagree with and who need to be put in their place so he was just being just another stubborn bad editor. Really, it's administrations job to take of such things. When I came to you, all I got was how good of an editor he was. Thanks to you I never want to come to wikipedia again. The only reason you want me to get rid of the discussion even though it is bugging no one but you is because I said the administration is terrible here which is true Tyrenius and you're a big reason why. What it is, is you miss me. That's why you can't stay off my page. 65.31.100.170 04:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Interesting! No one wants to do any editing on the Coral Smith page since you all messed with it. There's like two lines there and no one has contributed. 65.31.100.170 04:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

This isn't your page. It's a wikipedia page to be used for creating an encyclopedia. Check out WP:USER. Get a MySpace page for socialising. If you want Tonetare back, I said I'd unblock it. I only blocked it because you said you were changing your ID. Tyrenius 05:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you're right. This probably wasn't the place to be getting private. Anyone could have seen that information. If you wanted to unblock me, you can. I'm not adding contributions or anything. I'm only here to assist Forest otherwise I'm not here. 65.31.100.170 17:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

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