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Gates at CVG/G4 and F9 Operations

@Jtaylor7309: Hey, I saw you question about gates at CVG, I figured I would explain what is going on. Currently gates A5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17/18/19/21/22 are used. Back before ASA moved to Concourse A in '01/'02, gates A20/22 were small gates, however, 22 was subsequently expanded to hadle 757/767's for Delta. This orientation cutoff A20 and its jetway sat unused until 2012. Similarly, after 2012, gate A23 was cuttoff due to gate A21 being painted larger, however, gate A23 was recently painted to be used by Allegiant/Frontier, though can only be used when an aircraft smaller than an A320 is at gate A22. In other news regarding gates, which you may not be aaware of, this summer, CVG is reopening gates A1/2/3/5. It is predicted that gate A2 will be a ground level acess for OneJet projecting out towards the old terminal 2 area, while A1/3/4/5 will be used for WN (A4 was previously used by OneJet), who might be announcing service on January 5 when they entend their schedule into the summer. This makes sense as the contractor rennovating the new gates is supposed to be complete by June 15, 2017, probably conciding with the launch date of these flights. While I do not have an absolute confirmination that WN is launching flights, its easy to connect the dots based on the need to add four gates together by a specific date.

For Allegiants non-based aircraft routes, doing a quick search for this spring, all of Alegiant's aircraft operating at CVG overnight at CVG except for the aircraft operating CVG-AZA, which is based at AZA. Since all Allegiant crew start and finnish the day at the same airport, my guess is all the crew except for the AZA flight are Cincinnati based.

For Frontier, this spring/summer, they have: - A320 that goes CVG-LAX-CVG-(Overnight at CVG) - A320 that goes CVG-XXX-CVG-SFO-CVG - A320 that goes CVG-XXX-CVG-LAS-CVG - A320 that goes CVG-PHX-CVG-XXX-CVG

These routes are all daily now and the non-daily routes except ATL/MCO/DEN (these use aircraft based from that airport) are filled in the XXX spaces. Sometimes PHL/FLL/DFW/IAH use aircraft based at DEN, but mostly use the CVG based aircraft.

Let me know if you have any other questions! Stinger20 (talk) 03:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Stinger20: Thanks for doing this! I was kinda thinking aloud while looking over the CVG page, and I'm glad you know answers! So long term, what do you think the plan is for A20? From the inside of concourse A, they have installed counters and monitors-just like A23. If A23 is being reopened this summer, is A20 going to remain dormant? It doesn't make sense to spend a lot of effort to put in the counter if they don't have a plan for it.

I saw on the forum that the west end of A was being reactivated-will they really get 4 gates (A1/A2/A3/A5) into that small area? Even if A2 is a ground level for OneJet, I had kinda assumed that A5 would somehow be behind where the restrooms currently are, near A7. I think the connection between WN's schedule extension and the holdroom renovation deadline makes total sense. However, if the airport fills that end of the Concourse with gates, what's the easiest way to expand concourse A? Unless Delta is willing to give up gates in B, CVG will pretty much be maxed out-at least in A. Any idea how the airport board plans to proceed if they run out of room in Concourse A? If/when some combination of Spirit, JetBlue, and Alaska enter the market, the airport will have to find a place to put them-and that assumes that none of the current carriers need more gates!!

The reason I asked about G4 was about growth of the CVG base. While originally announced as 90 jobs, I would assume the base has grown as more aircraft are added (4 currently, 5th A319 arriving soon). Any knowledge on the current size of the allegiant base? 120 jobs? 150 jobs?

My F9 questions were also about the "focus city" at CVG. Are there any plans for F9 to base crew members in CVG? Currently it seems that most of the crew routings go through DEN, which creates a mess (last weekend) when the weather causes problems. I think you were the first to mention the idea, but where do you see F9 looking for future expansion to establish CVG for a large amount of connecting passengers? With 12ish flights a day, the capacity is certainly there and I assume that F9 would look into adding east coast flights from CVG in conjunction with more west coast flights (Seattle/Portland). Are you aware of any F9 itineraries that currently have a CVG layover or what other factors make CVG a "focus city"? Thanks for all of your thoughts-the airport is an exciting place now! Jtaylor7309