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Somewhat procedural. This had a previous AfD closed with a speedy, and then an inappropriate G4. The author was told to bring it to DRV, DRV stuff is supposed to go to AfD if overturned, the claims of notability weren't uncontroversial, I don't think, so here we are. Amarkov blahedits 22:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete not an obvious speedy spam this time, but still not a good article. Danny Lilithborne 22:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I am the one who reposted the article, so obviously I believe it should stay in wikipedia, however I wanted to restate the reasons why:
    • Corporations are permited to have articles in wikipedia so long as they are not advertisements, and the companies are notable.
    • The article is very carefully written to avoid reading as an advertisement. If people feel that the article is not good (see above), it can have more information added if removed from the AfD. Things are kept to a minimum to eliminate controversy for now.
    • The company is notable as proven by 3 links pertaining to notability in the article. One is to an award granted by the SEMA organization which is the association for the $34 Billion/year aftermarket automotive industry. The other 2 are fully independent publications dedicated to reviewing high fidelity audio equipment. It should be noted that Pear Cable Audio Cables has never advertised in either of the 2 review publications. If according to WP:CORP a restaurant is notable because "Many people independent of the Mavalli Tiffin Rooms have published their own accounts of eating there", then certainly these references should qualify.Apblake 22:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Its not spam, but I don't find it to be notable. The first source is a trade association. Big deal. The second doesn't even appear to be in English but looks like specs and a price so it could be a catalog site. The third is some random feedback webpage. Montco 23:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment The trade association that you don't feel is notable (SEMA) hosts what is probably the largest automotive aftermarket show in the world every year in Las Vegas attracting well over 100,000 industry only visitors from over 100 countries. If restaurant reviews qualify, recognition from this organization should certainly qualify. The second is a review from an Italian High-end audio publication. More specifically, Pear Cable Audio Cables won a competition comparing 24 different cables. Please use a translator if this is not clear. VideoHiFi is most certainly not a catalog site. The third source is not a "random feedback" webpage. It is a well respected audio review publication who's name "positive feedback" is a play on words. It has been available in both print and web versions over the years.Apblake 23:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]