User talk:Dreerwin

Pinehouse

Hello! Regarding the AFd for the photography club, you will not win any friends by soliciting new users (IP editors in this case) to come to vote there, if that is what is happening. Please also lay back on the comments. Arguing with experienced editors is a but pointless if you are new, as the experienced editors have been to hundreds or thousands of these discussions. See also WP:BADGERING. You actually don't need to argue it: there are lots of sources and it will very likely be kept. The above actions do not help your cause though.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I was just following talk about about how to have editors review and make a page better. I dont care about "votes" as I do about making the page improved. Thank you for your help! Not having so much about therapeutic photography makes sense. Maybe I can make a page about just that? --Dreerwin (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be a great idea if it does not already exist. Go back int he history for pinehouse and copy the material that I just deleted. I deleted it because we have a policy that about material that is in scope: we do not hang other material on a topic like a WP:COATRACK. Welcome to Wikipedia. Lots of people make big mistakes at the beginning, but you are obviously a good editor so be persistent! And no more COI please.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:19, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do really appretiate your help and honesty! Have a good day! --Dreerwin (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I started a draft for you and pasted in the material that you had in PPC. If you work on it and let me know when it is done, I can publish it or give you advice on how to make it better.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OMG your awesome! But I didnt see how to save it as a draft oops..can that be undone? therapeutic Photography --Dreerwin (talk) 16:29, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You just edit it like a regular article. Wikpedia has different page "spaces". The page we are talking on is in "talk space". The draft is in "draft space". When the draft is ready it can be moved over to "article space", which means it is visible to the world!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:31, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I copied the draft and edited it a bit - obviously need some work but then I published it without knowing how to save draft..until now :( --Dreerwin (talk) 16:33, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We'll see if that lasts in main space. You might want to slow down a bit. keep working on the article in main space, but start in draft space before you publish to article space in future.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:40, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

can u link Pinehouse Photogoraphy Club to Therapeutic Photography for me please? --Dreerwin (talk) 16:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're the founder of Pinehouse photography, so you should avoid editing it or taking a wiki interest in it from here on in. WP:COI still applies.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Again thank you for your help - I really do appreciate it and Im learning a lot from your guidance :) --Dreerwin (talk) 17:15, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wont respond or make any further posts to have it worked on then, especially by myself. Agreed. --Dreerwin (talk) 17:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You can still ask for edits, but in general an excessive interest in one article over others, especially with COI, will not earn you points here. There are 5 million other articles to work on though! Pick a topic.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:31, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Dreerwin! Thank you for your contributions. I am ThatMontrealIP and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Original writing

Hello! I was wondering if you could tell me how much of the two articles you created yesterday was copy/pasted directly from the sources, and how much of the copy you had to write from scratch? Just curious.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening. It took me 2-3 full days looking for sources and putting them together. Most of the sources said basically the same things but all that was taken was cited according. --Dreerwin (talk) 03:26, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! yes I can see it was a lot of work. what I mean is did you write it yourself or copy sections from the articles?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:33, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been up fore a week or a bit more now. Like I said I published too quick and that's why it got nominated for deletion. So Ive been spending all this time looking for resources, references, and trying to avoid any coi in editing. Def wasn't copy and paste but it was all referenced citing most sources were just saying the same thing in different ways. I def didnt get paid to do any of this as I am still learning. All I have been wanting to do is get good editors on here to help perfect the page sort of speak, like everyone who has been helping especially lately..thank you --Dreerwin (talk) 03:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I found many sections that were directly copy pasted. I am guessing that it was all copy pasted. Honesty helps. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was told because of COI I wasn't encouraged to write too much because of bias. A lot of references were used from what people said, and what some that was written.It wasn't all copy and pasted 100% know that and everything was references and cited. Then I looked for help on discussion boards to help change up the wording because I wasn't supposed to because of COI that anything I write would be biased. I hope you understand what Im saying here..I was reaching out for help to make the page better. I posted the page to a lot of placed on here asking for editing assistance. Sorry for any confusion --Dreerwin (talk) 03:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]