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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Anglyn (talk | contribs) at 19:06, 22 June 2020 (→‎Wikipedia is not the place to promote your book). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

December 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did with this edit to Aaron Russo, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 22:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Anglyn. You have new messages at Thejadefalcon's talk page.
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October 2014

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Hubal (here, referring to an editor's reasoned reversion as "an effacement"). Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You may also want to read this essay regarding credentials on Wikipedia. Also, that portion really should be in the origins section of the Apollo article (since it's about Apollo's origins), not in the origins of Hubal (since it's about a god with his origins in Hubal, not Hubal's origins). Ian.thomson (talk) 17:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Antenor (mythology)

Back in May 2014 you made an edit to Antenor (mythology) (diff).

It was not a large addition:

According to numerous scholars, Antenor was actually related to Priam. (Lempriere, 1788, p.55)

unfortunately you forgot to include the long citation in the references section to support the short citation. Is it:

  • Lemprière, John (1788), Bibliotheca_Classica?

--PBS (talk) 11:50, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed it using:

-- 12:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. (Anglyn)

-- 15:35, 11th of January, 2017 (GMT)

Wikipedia is not the place to promote your book

Your user page and getting this upset at me calling a certain translation garbage make it pretty obvious you are promoting your book on this site. That is not what Wikipedia is for. You have a conflict of interest with regards to your translation and should not be making edits relating to it. You need to wait until there are independent sources about your translation before adding it: that's why the Way of Hermes translation by Salaman et al is not mentioned.

I'm sorry I didn't know that you were the translator, but Wikipedia does not allow personal attacks. Your argument that I don't speak English because garbage is not an English word frankly raises concerns about your ability to contribute in this language. There are editions of Wikipedia in other languages where you may be more comfortable contributing. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:49, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Thomson. You cast the first stone, you called the translation garbage. Latin is a sine qua non for scholarly credentials. The translation is so new that no articles or reviews have yet to be written about it, and this is no grounds for dismissal. The information is accurate, and stands up to scholarly scrutiny. The translation is in the Queen's English, hence why English Wikipedia is the only place for it. Americanisms are colloquial and not in-fact proper Oxford English. Furthermore, hermetic practitioners are not fluffybunnies. They know a great deal more than you may realise. Anglyn (talk) 23:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I'm sorry I didn't realize you were spamming your book with no regard for our policies against promotion. I would not have been blunt about how your translation is stilted and switches tenses around in ways that no other translations do (for a reason), uses idiosyncratic vocabulary that totally obscures the original Greco-Egyptian thought, and is not based on the oldest available sources (something required for a critical text as any academic would know), if I knew you were so vitriolic in opposition to criticism.
But that's not why your book is being excluded.
Wikipedia doesn't care about how much you pretend to be a scholar. We don't accept original research. Credentials are irrelevant, noone here cares about them, we will ignore them. All we do here is cite, summarize, and paraphrase professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources, without addition, nor commentary. Also, again, for you to claim that garbage is not an English word when it predates Shakespeare (and was even used by the Bard in Hamlet I.v.57) leaves you with less than no room to criticize anyone's English (ġif þu nahest dōn sƿa in eald Ænglisc).
But back to the point: the reason your book is being excluded (as is another translation that I personally enjoy) is a lack of independent reliable sources. The Amazon listing is not an independent source, you need reviews in scholarly journals (as I provided from the Copenhaver translation). If you cannot understand that, you should find the edition of Wikipedia in your native language and edit there instead. If this is your native language, then you just to find something else to do. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ne Aesopum quidem trivis Anglyn (talk) 18:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is not you, Mr. Thomson, that should apologise, but I. I should have known better than to respond to a trashing (to use a nice American word) of what represents the sum total of over a decade hard study at university, with the same negative attitude which you espouse. It was unenlightened of me, and I should apologise, sincerely. I'm sorry. Furthermore, your voting to exclude me from Wikipedia completely as a result of this little... pickle, is ultimately a good thing. I bow out gracefully, and will endeavour to make no further alterations to your website. One last thing I will say, though, is that as you are perhaps aware virtually the entire academic community globally discounts Wikipedia on the basis of it being an amateur source and not at all suitable for serious scholarship. Anglyn (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]