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Logical Contradiction

There seems to be a problem with the following line:

"In the film, Shaffer employs an interlocutor (a young priest) for Salieri to achieve this same function, but the film is told from a more neutral, third-person perspective."

There's a logical contradiction with the use of the conjunction "but."

Play vs Movie

Might we consider splitting this article into two, one about the play and one about the movie? The two are rather different, and this article shouldn't serve as a mere comparison, it should be positively informative.

Well, you raise a good point, but I think the article manages to be positively informative about both (there are separate, standalone sections for each), and there is very little, if any, direct comparison between the two. Separating them would also lead to a disambiguation page for this topic which would be unnecessary and time-consuming for an information seeker. That's my two cents anyway.RiseAbove 06:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

At this point there is a disambiguation page and separate pages for the film and the play. Given that, I propose the few remaining parts of this article that speak exclusively about the film (about the film score and the cast of the film and the academy awards) be removed as they are not relevant to the play and are covered in the film article. I could see leaving the comparisons between the film and the play, since the play is certainly less well known than the film, but I personally think it should be cleaned up by someone who is more familiar with both (i.e. not me) or gotten rid of. norm77 19:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Director's cut

What are the differnces between the 'original' and the director's cut? I've seen the two, but with too big an interval to remember the first one. Also, the version that I watched, which, at the beginning, claimed to be the director's cut, lasted only 172 minutes (titles included), but the article says it's 180 minutes long. DirkvdM 19:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This'll tell ya all you need to know: Amadeus Director's Cut Review

RiseAbove 08:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The director's cut includes some extra scenes, including one which adds some extra depth to Salieri and Constanza (Mozart's wife). By my memory, the two major scenes that are included in the Direcor's Cut are:
  • 1) Salieri coerces Constanza to come alone to his residence. This happens after Constanza asks Salieri to help Mozart get the post to teach the Emperor's 12 year old niece. Salieri implies that the purpose is for sexual favors, though he never explicetly says so (this part of the scene, apparently, was the closing part of Act 1 in the play, giving the audience a sense of tension if she'd actually show up). Constanza then comes over and gets undressed - wearing only her garter belt. Salieri looks frightened at this, and summons his servant to show her out. Constanza is furious at this and screams at Salieri. This explains the line, late in the movie, where Constanza says "I regret we have no servants to show you out, Herr Salieri." It also explains why she shows such contempt for him.
  • 2) Mozart attempts to get a job teaching a pupil. He's offered a job to teach the daughter of Herr Schicknauer, who has a special fascination for his pet dogs (he even has a portrait of them in his studio). When Mozart attempts to teach the youn girl some piano, the dogs howl in time to the piano. Mozart storms out, asking Herr Schicknauer if he should continue teaching 'your dog' musical lessons, and grabs a bottle of wine on the way out. It's this bottle of wine that Mozart is drinking when walking the streets of Vienna, just before he sees his father has come to visit him. Late in the movie, Mozart goes back to Herr Schicknauer, begging for a job, which Herr Schicknauer flatly denies him. - Sledgeh101

Salieri eats fish?

What the heck? How is commissioning the Requiem Mass equivalent to eating fish? Dave Foster 03:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Memorable quotes

I think a section should be added documenting famous quotes from the movie/play. In particular, I loved the "too many notes" line and would like to see a reference to it. It would be fun to direct wiki editors, who think some entries are too verbose, to this article. 67.87.73.86 06:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]