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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by OMaHTLD (talk | contribs) at 04:45, 6 January 2007 (→‎Request for advocacy). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Request for advocacy

OMaHTLD, I am responding to your request for advocacy. How can I help?

My guess is that your priority is responding to the current request that the Lost Colony game page be deleted. (Here).

Assuming I am right, let me give you some initial advice. By all means, if you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. (You can just respond on this talk page and I will respond as quickly as I can).

  • The principle issue that is relevant to whether or not the Lost Colony (game) page is likely to be "notability" -- whether the game is sufficiently well known to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia. (See generally the general notability guideline and the specific guidelines for articles about web content and about products and services of corporations).
  • The easiest way to show notability is to show two or more "non-trivial" references to the game in "reliable sources" - printed newspaper or magazine articles are probably your best bet in this case, but coverage by a journalist working for a major on-line resource like Wired or even GameSpot might help.
  • My first suggestion would be that you ask around on the relevant forums, or even e-mail Red Planet's marketing people, and ask for references to any print or on-line media coverage. It doesn't have to be positive coverage, as long as it's "non-trivial" and it's actual journalistic or expert coverage rather than a forum page or a blog by someone who is not an industry expert.

Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia!

Let me know if that's helpful, or if you want anything else, TheronJ 20:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the response.

Well, the game has definately been covered by Gameshout.com :-)

The game is more noted for the controvesy surrounding it, and the fears that it was/is a scam. It seems more likely however that it is just a poorly executed game with even poorer management of its PR.

Also, I am in dispute with the user Stateofshock, who works for the game company. He is keen to make sure no mention of the problems or false claims the company has made, to the point of removing every change I have attempted to make regarding this. I have attempted to show some of this, and present the matter in as neutral a fashion as possible, but it seems that his goal is to simply make the wiki page a promo for their game.

More recently, even the references I made to their own web site have been purposely deleted, and despite my never posting on their forum, they have banned my IP address from viewing it. For example, Statofshock stated in their forum that they were using the Torque engine as a gui frontend to the Unreal engine. The chances of this being true are next to zero, from a purely technical standpoint, merging the two engines would have taken up their stated dev time of a year.

Ideally, I would like your opinion of my edits to the page, and a yes or no as to wheteher they were to a standard that is acceptable to Wikipedia.

Also, if you can MSN me as supportingit@hotmail.co.uk I would appreciate it.

Cheers, Mark.