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"Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain" seems to be original research to me; I have only heard of this referred to as the "Battle of (the) Annaberg" ([[Robert Citino]]'s ''The German Way of War'', as well as [http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Battle+of+Annaberg%22&btnG=Search+Books GB]). Just because English words are used in a title does not mean that it is the title in English. That the mountain is named after Saint Anne can be mentioned, but the article should only be ''titled'' as such if reliable sources do so as well. [[User:Olessi|Olessi]] ([[User talk:Olessi|talk]]) 03:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
"Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain" seems to be original research to me; I have only heard of this referred to as the "Battle of (the) Annaberg" ([[Robert Citino]]'s ''The German Way of War'', as well as [http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Battle+of+Annaberg%22&btnG=Search+Books GB]). Just because English words are used in a title does not mean that it is the title in English. That the mountain is named after Saint Anne can be mentioned, but the article should only be ''titled'' as such if reliable sources do so as well. [[User:Olessi|Olessi]] ([[User talk:Olessi|talk]]) 03:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Is this a reliable source? [http://books.google.com/books?id=M0UknKj4xZkC&pg=RA1-PA501&lpg=PA500&dq=Gora+Swietej+Anny+1921&sig=ACfU3U0Ud0olHjcJK1snMjc6TRci0dsoVA#PRA1-PA500,M1] I bet it is. We can present reliable sources for both German and Polish names of the battle, so let us stick to English. [[User:Tymek|Tymek]] ([[User talk:Tymek|talk]]) 04:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
:Is this a reliable source? [http://books.google.com/books?id=M0UknKj4xZkC&pg=RA1-PA501&lpg=PA500&dq=Gora+Swietej+Anny+1921&sig=ACfU3U0Ud0olHjcJK1snMjc6TRci0dsoVA#PRA1-PA500,M1] I bet it is. We can present reliable sources for both German and Polish names of the battle, so let us stick to English. [[User:Tymek|Tymek]] ([[User talk:Tymek|talk]]) 04:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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As Olessi predicted, the proper [http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Battle+of+Annaberg%22&btnG=Search+Books "Battle of Annaberg"] is known to Google Books, just like |
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[http://books.google.com/books?spell=1&q=%22Battle+of+the+Annaberg%22&btnG=Search+Books "Battle of the Annaberg"], and to Google Scholar as well |
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[http://scholar.google.de/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Battle+of+the+Annaberg%22&btnG=Search "Battle of the Annaberg"], while [http://books.google.com/books?q=%22Battle+of+Saint+Anne%27s+Mountain%22&btnG=Search+Books "Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain"] is unknown to Google Books and Scholar, also in other spelling variants. And of course, the ahistorical naming "Battle of Gora Swietej Anny" is totally nonsensical, unknown even to [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Battle+of+Gora+Swietej+Anny%22&btnG=Google+Search Google itself]. Of course, Piotrus did his usual [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Annaberg&diff=229328765&oldid=229328595 moving, salting & taunting maneuver] to prevent a move back, even though he has been warned several times not to do this. -- [[User:Matthead|Matthead]] [[User_talk:Matthead|<font style="color:#ffff00;background:#0000cc;"><small> Discuß </small></font>]] 10:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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"Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain" seems to be original research to me; I have only heard of this referred to as the "Battle of (the) Annaberg" (Robert Citino's The German Way of War, as well as GB). Just because English words are used in a title does not mean that it is the title in English. That the mountain is named after Saint Anne can be mentioned, but the article should only be titled as such if reliable sources do so as well. Olessi (talk) 03:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Is this a reliable source? [1] I bet it is. We can present reliable sources for both German and Polish names of the battle, so let us stick to English. Tymek (talk) 04:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
As Olessi predicted, the proper "Battle of Annaberg" is known to Google Books, just like "Battle of the Annaberg", and to Google Scholar as well "Battle of the Annaberg", while "Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain" is unknown to Google Books and Scholar, also in other spelling variants. And of course, the ahistorical naming "Battle of Gora Swietej Anny" is totally nonsensical, unknown even to Google itself. Of course, Piotrus did his usual moving, salting & taunting maneuver to prevent a move back, even though he has been warned several times not to do this. -- Matthead Discuß 10:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)