Talk:History of concubinage in the Muslim world: Difference between revisions

[[:Sexual slavery in Islam]] → {{no redirect|Female slavery and concubinage in the Muslim world}} – Following extensive prior discussion on the talk page, I think the time is ripe for broaching the long overdue renaming of this page to something more precise and representative. The proposed change in the switch from "in Islam" to "in the Muslim world" has been advocated for on the basis of the fact the article is largely composed of historic examples in specific places, i.e.: within the Muslim world, whereas "in Islam" suggests some sort of purely religious discussion, which is already covered by the likes of [[Islamic views on slavery]], [[Islamic views on concubinage]], et cetera. The proposed shift from "sexual slavery" to "Female slavery and concubinage" follows the logic of a number of experienced Wikipedia editors, such as Bookku and Nishidani, who have noted, among other things, that: Female slavery was a a fluid concept within the historic Muslim world, so there was little distinction between female slaves in general and slaves specifically used for sexual purposes. In many sources, it is almost impossible to distinguish between statements about female slaves in general and those referring specifically to female slaves used for sex. In other sources, the term ''surriyya'' is often commonly translated as "concubine", and there are numerous sources that mainly use this term, particularly for the later history, such as regarding the harem structures of the Ottoman Empire, where concubinage took on quite a different meaning from simply "female slaves used for sex". The two terms are therefore both common names for different aspects of the topic and with subtly distinct meanings in many historical settings. [[User:Iskandar323|Iskandar323]] ([[User talk:Iskandar323|talk]]) 10:18, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

*'''Support'''. My preferred title would be either '''History of concubinage in the Muslim world''' or ('''History of slave concubinage in the Muslim world''', as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Islamic_views_on_concubinage&diff=1050043604&oldid=1049988543 suggested] by {{u|Wiqi55}}), but I think Iskandar323's title is better than the current one.'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' _{[[User talk:Vice regent|talk]]} 11:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)