Talk:Southern Gothic

i think that gothic genre is a very understandable topic. but what is it for sure? i have english homework to find out exactly what gothic genre of writing is so could somebody plz help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.26.37 (talk • contribs)

Gothic is a style and feel; in architecture it's solid, heavy, highly ornamented, and often seems dark, forbidding and cold; in literature it's more or less the same, with intricate plot twists and a damp, gloomy atmosphere. There's an emphasis on psychology and often hopeless or twisted romance. The damsel in distress is usually saved, but she and her hero are both somewhat flawed and needy. Doovinator 03:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

George Garrett

The George Garrett mentioned in this article (a creative writer and faculty member at the University of Virginia, who was the Virginia Poet Laureate in 2002) is not the same George Garrett (born in England in 1902) who appears on the other end of the link. -- Dennis G. Jerz 14 Mar 2006

I took him and some other red links out for now. The article it led to didn't mention any notability as far as writing. --DanielCD 14:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grisham's A Painted House

John Grisham's *A Painted House* strikes me as an interesting late addition to Southern Gothic literature. It's set in the early fifties; and written by someone a generation removed from the events described.

I think it would be hard to extend the Southern Gothic genre much past the civil rights era. With the passing of rural America, and of Southern distinctiveness, the genre appears to me to be headed toward extinction.

Historical Incidents?

I think it's a pretty strange claim to make that some historical incidents fit a literary genre. Perhaps narratives of said incidents lend themselves to being depicted in a certain genre but history is history it is not a piece of literature in a particular style. Jztinfinity 05:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see any specifi historic events referred to. It talks about aspects of setting perhaps. What are you talking about? --DanielCD 16:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Songs

I think Neil Young deserves a spot on the page for either Southernman or Alabama. He points out the same dark hypocrisy as many of the other artist metioned.

James Lee Burke

From the article, it would seem that James Lee Burke's novels are often southern gothic - In The Electric Mist with Confederate Dead, for example. Am I wrong?

Unencyclopedic rubbish

This article contains no sources at all and makes wild generalisations. For example, the phrase "the writer takes classic Gothic archetypes, such as the damsel in distress or the heroic knight, and portrays them in a more modern and realistic manner" is hopelessly inaccurate. Neither the damsel in distress nor the heroic knight have anything to do with Gothic literature; both are archetypes of Medieval Romances. Why not have a look at the definition of Gothic on the relevant page before coming out with such unsourced crap? Similarly, it seems disingenuous at best to describe Strange Fruit, a civil-rights protest song, as "Southern Gothic", particularly within the terms of the rather spurious definition given. More (any) citations are needed, and a bit less of such idiotic asseveration. 80.254.147.52 13:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the article is poor. In addition it badly needs an historical context. When did the style emerge? Who first used the term to describe this group of writers? Did Tennessee Williams really describe his own work as Southern Gothic as is implied? --Gramscis cousin (talk) 08:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CW's Supernatural TV Show

Could it fit the Southern Gothic genre? The settings is very similar to Frailty and The Gift —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.169.203 (talk) 21:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source

This page seems to have been largely copied from http://www.answers.com/topic/southern-gothic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.177.241.30 (talk) 18:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- I believe Answers.com takes its info from Wikipedia, not the other way around.Dubyavee (talk) 00:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flannery O'Connor

Shouldn't she be included? She seems pretty notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.245.102 (talk) 04:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She's mentioned in the intro section. The whole article could use more work. Feel free to make improvements that you see are needed! Aleta ^Sing 04:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of two films from the list

I have removed There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men. The former is set in California, and, while dark, contains few Gothic elements. The latter is set in West Texas, largely along the Mexican border. I would call it a thriller with film noir and western elements, but not Southern Gothic. I think we'd need sourcing for that claim, as it's a bit of a stretch. 65.190.92.233 (talk) 21:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]