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Why is paedophelia, incest, rape and violence listed in there? None of those are "close relationships." That's for removal, but I'm sure there's probably some I missed that should be taken out. I do have a suggestion for addition, however. I think "infatuation" should be included, considering "limerence" is on the list, even though limerence is a feeling and not a relationship. Perhaps another list should be created entirely, and be made up of the types of feelings of attraction. {{unsigned|Knightskye}}
Why is paedophelia, incest, rape and violence listed in there? None of those are "close relationships." That's for removal, but I'm sure there's probably some I missed that should be taken out. I do have a suggestion for addition, however. I think "infatuation" should be included, considering "limerence" is on the list, even though limerence is a feeling and not a relationship. Perhaps another list should be created entirely, and be made up of the types of feelings of attraction. {{unsigned|Knightskye}}
:Well, incest can be considered a "close relationship" if the two consulting adults both love each other.(NOTE: I AM NO WHERE NEAR SUPPORTING OR GOING AGAINST "INCEST") rape and paedophelia should be removed. Because I doubt you'd force some child or someone else into have sex if you "love" them. Infatuation shouldn't be included (since there is no article for it, just a disambig.) Prostitution should also be removed. [[User:UnDeRsCoRe|UnDeRsCoRe]] 18:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, incest can be considered a "close relationship" if the two consulting adults both love each other.(NOTE: I AM NO WHERE NEAR SUPPORTING OR GOING AGAINST "INCEST") rape and paedophelia should be removed. Because I doubt you'd force some child or someone else into have sex if you "love" them. Infatuation shouldn't be included (since there is no article for it, just a disambig.) Prostitution should also be removed. [[User:UnDeRsCoRe|UnDeRsCoRe]] 18:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


==Pedophilia==
I removed pedophilia because by its very definition it's a fetish, hence the "philia" ending. If someone wants to enter "Child-love" or whatever term is used for those relationships now a days that would seem to me to be more along the guidelines, however if we included every fetish it would make for a very long list now wouldn't it? [[User:76.185.10.76|76.185.10.76]] 08:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Template:Close Relationships project

Criteria for list

Please add articles in alphabetical order. This template is intended to list Wikipedia articles dealing with various forms and aspects of contemporary relationships. The idea is for readers to quickly find information about their own current relationships. Articles listed in the template should fall into the following categories:

  • types of close relationships (e.g., friendship, family, marriage)
  • forms of marriage (e.g., monogamy, polygamy, polandry, polygyny)
  • alternative forms of close relationships (e.g., polyamory, swinging, open marriage)
  • positive aspects of close relationships (e.g., attachment, bonding, love, sexuality)
  • negative aspects of close relationships (e.g., rape, domestic violence, jealousy)
  • endings of close relationships (e.g., separation, divorce, widowhood).


I don't particularly like the template. If you're telling us which subjects to place words under, we should be telling the Wikipedia user which subjects those things are listed under. Otherwise, they'll be as confused and disgusted as the rest of us. So, we can, maybe, make the Close Relationship box a tad larger and put in the different subjects, bolded, possibly underlined. That way, the user does not believe that "Rape" or "Pedophilia" are considered "Close Relationships," and instead sees them as "Negative aspects of close relationships." However, rape and pedophilia, in my opinion, do not belong in any of the categories that you have listed. New subject names can be easily thought up, so that is not much of a problem.
--Knightskye 04:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brideservice, Bride price, Dowry

I removed Brideservice, Bride price and Dowry because these articles talked about the phenomena as historical traditions, with little or no information about the practice in contemporary relationships. This template is intended to list Wikipedia articles dealing with various forms and aspects of contemporary relationships. The idea is for readers to quickly find information about their own current relationships.

Brideservice, Bride Price, Dowry

I replaced Brideservice, Bride price and Dowry contrary to User:Kc62301 claims that, “these articles talked about the phenomena as historical traditions, with little or no information about the practice in contemporary relationships.” A brief perusal of the globe--not to mention a review of the voluminous ethnographic literature on these topics--demonstrates the vitality of these forms of contemporary relationships, which shape the lives of literally millions of inhabitants of the globe. While I commend User:Kc62301 for stating that “[t]his template is intended to list Wikipedia articles dealing with various forms and aspects of contemporary relationships,” I vigorously challenge the assumption that these modes of human alliance (Brideservice, Bride price and Dowry) are not contemporary forms of marriage. Moreover, User:Kc62301 states that “the idea [for the template] is for readers to quickly find information about their own current relationships.” Why then “freeze-frame” humans who practice these forms of close relationships, much like other marriage categories listed in the Close Relationships template, such as polygamy, polyandry, polygyny? Moving beyond our ethnocentrism is a positive path to fully comprehending the amazing human diversity in contemporary close relationships, and in turn will enhance our capacity--in the words of User:Kc62301 to “find information about [our] own current relationships.” User:Bdean1963

awesome template

good work everyone!Spencerk 02:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

side template or bottom template?

Can this template be converted to a bottom template rather than a side template? Many of the articles that this template appears on also include other side templates, and they are becoming rather cluttered. See homosexuality for example. Kaldari 20:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Prostitution and rape?

I think they are off-topic and should be remove from the template. Andries 20:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear whether these are meant to be consensual, positive connections or just all the connections which are possible. If that can be answered, the question of rape (which made me raise my eyebrow) and the like will be answered Euchrid 16:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Close Relationships" List

Why is paedophelia, incest, rape and violence listed in there? None of those are "close relationships." That's for removal, but I'm sure there's probably some I missed that should be taken out. I do have a suggestion for addition, however. I think "infatuation" should be included, considering "limerence" is on the list, even though limerence is a feeling and not a relationship. Perhaps another list should be created entirely, and be made up of the types of feelings of attraction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightskye (talkcontribs)

Well, incest can be considered a "close relationship" if the two consulting adults both love each other.(NOTE: I AM NO WHERE NEAR SUPPORTING OR GOING AGAINST "INCEST") rape and paedophelia should be removed. Because I doubt you'd force some child or someone else into have sex if you "love" them. Infatuation shouldn't be included (since there is no article for it, just a disambig.) Prostitution should also be removed. UnDeRsCoRe 18:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Pedophilia

I removed pedophilia because by its very definition it's a fetish, hence the "philia" ending. If someone wants to enter "Child-love" or whatever term is used for those relationships now a days that would seem to me to be more along the guidelines, however if we included every fetish it would make for a very long list now wouldn't it? 76.185.10.76 08:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]