User talk:DeanHinnen

Not a sockpuppet

This account was initially blocked for being a BryanFromPalistine sockpuppet. After investigations and substantial and very civil discussion with this user on unblock-en-l, our opinion is that this person is Bryan's brother and not actually a sockpuppet. Furthermore, although the edits looked like meatpuppetry, they were actually legitimate and good faith attempts to remove libel from Wikipedia articles. To avoid even the appearance of meatpuppetry, this user has agreed not to edit the article, Free Republic, directly but may still participate in that article's talk page and is specifically encouraged to report libel on that page at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard (assuming that is the right forum for the libel). Once again, this person showed nothing but civility during the investigation on unblock-en-l despite the time it took. He has our apologies for the block. Dean, please feel free to leave a brief note on the talk page for Free Republic referencing this message if you feel it appropriate. --Yamla 18:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Yamla's analysis. Dean: If posts to the Free Republic talk page aren't getting corrections done fast enough, please let me know, and I'll try to help transcribe stuff if there is clear consensus for it. Long term I'd like to see this self imposed restriction become liftable as long as we don't have any issues around the editing and content... ++Lar: t/c 18:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to see it become "liftable" also. Who knows, I might even learn to like it here. ;-) Dino 18:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Free Republic cite

Thank you for investigating that source, it certainly cleared up much of the controversy regarding that section. Again thank you, and welcome to Wikipedia. Let me know if you would like any help, Prodego ^talk 21:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Your claims and contact with TJ Walker and Carolyn of WMF

Hi Dino,

You claimed on Jan. 15, 2007, that you contacted author TJ Walker (regarding an article used to support claims of death threats in the Free Republic article) and that this author told you that he never wrote the article in question. "I contacted TJ Walker and asked him whether he authored the article. He said, "Of course not." here It's been proven that TJ Walker actually did write the article - and it's even archived from his website on the www here). Here is a list of the dozens of articles, including the one in question titled '7-6-99 Is the FreeRepublic.Com Really DeathThreat.Com?' , which you claim Walker told you that he 'didn't write'. TJ Walker - All Columns 1999-2000 Based on your false claims, a Wiki Foundation employee (who is not an active editor) User:Carolyn-WMF edited the contested FR article and removed critical material here.

Could you explain the inconsistancy between your claim of TJ saying he didn't write the article, and the truth, and chronicle any interactions you had with TJ Walker - and with Carolyn WMF that resulted in her editing the article on your behalf on Jan 15? Thanks. Fairness & Accuracy For All

He doesn't have to explain anything to you. Nor is he responsible for explaining why TJ Walker would say he didn't write an article or whether TL walker actually wrote it or not. He also not responsible for the content of TJ Walker articles or the content of Free Republic. Your implied accusation here and the accusation of lying on your talk page is a Personal Attack and does not AGF. PLease remove it. --Tbeatty 03:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Beatty, If you actually believe that TJ Walker, a noted published author, liberal pundit, and "presentation coach and media trainer to prime ministers, premiers, Nobel Peace Prize winners, and CEOs." told Dean that he didn't write the article in question, I got some swamp land in the Northern Marianas Islands I wanna sell 'ya! LOL! - Fairness & Accuracy For Delay, Abramoff, Ney and Cunningham 07:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

some advice

Don't be baited by BenBurch and FAAFA. You are not required to answer to their concerns about content or answer any of their questions. Defend yourself from policy violations on AN/I but don't be drawn into discussions about content there. In fact, a good response is to tell them to take content issue to the articles talk page. They will bait you into a personal attack or some other violation (I see they trotted the "legal threat" card already). You've already been cleared of SockPuppet. Simply repeat it everytime they imply it. --Tbeatty 03:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. And thanks for sticking up for me. I've been back for only about 10 hours and it already feels like a three-day criminal trial. Dino 03:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I've asked FAAFA to refactor his personal attack (accusation of lying) on his talk page. He deleted the comment. You may want to comment on AN/I after I file it. You may also want to ask him to refactor it on his talk page as well. --Tbeatty 04:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I encourage you to find a plausible explanation regarding your claims that TJ Walker told you he never wrote the article titled 'Is FreeRepublic.Com Really DeathThreat.Com?' and found on his website, because you will have to answer to those claims, if you persue this Dean. I encourage you to also think if you really want to see this noted author dragged into this to verify or dispute your claims - like he will be if you continue down this path - especially after you have admitted (on the public unblock list) to your (and other employees) extensive history of editing (100's of edits) a highly contentious political article about a group you claim membership in, a group with a documented history of hate speech and death threats, all from work on your employer's network and your employer's time. In case you aren't aware of it Dean, Germans take a very dim view of hate speech, and even have laws restricting it. - Fairness & Accuracy For All 08:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)