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Kindly refrain from any further personal attacks as at the Jerusalem article talk page, "your insane bias" and "your nonsensical propaganda" refers. WP:AVOIDYOU. Thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 07:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not a personal attack, I simply stated a fact. You were babbling about my "crap" so kindly refrain from acting like you have moral high ground. All you do on pages relating to Israel is repeatedly rant about how evil you think it is. Thank you and stay off my talk page. Bill Williams 12:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to stay off your talk page once I correct a couple things for the record.
All you do on pages relating to Israel is repeatedly rant about how evil you think it is False. Selfstudier (talk) 13:54, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The only one endorsing war crimes is the Hezbollah supporter who enjoys watching terrorists bomb innocent people. is a personal attack worthy of an immediate block. Cut that shit out. The "oh, but it's a fact" defense is bullshit, and you should be ashamed of doubling down like that. Anything else like that and I'll be going to AE seeking a topic ban, and I wouldn't be surprised if a patrolling admin topic banned you without going through all that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:59, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Get away from my talk page, as I already requested (to Selfstudier), I am not interested in arguing, all I did was state what edits you make. As for ScottishFinnishRadish, I stated what Nableezy has in his infobox. Instead of ranting about "shit" and "bullshit" and "you should be ashamed" and threatening ro report me, click on his infobox, and stay away from my talk page. Bill Williams 21:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize to Selfstudier for stating that you have "insane bias" as that was not necessary and I should not have used the word "insane." I still think that you have far too much bias against Israel to be constantly editing its article, however. Bill Williams 22:00, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Im going to give you a bit to refactor your comment to me before I report it to AE. nableezy - 14:05, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Im removing your personal attack. If you restore it then we can deal with it then. Im not sure why you lashed out at me, cant recall an instance in which you and I had any issue whatsoever. But that was an outrageous attack, and Ill chalk it up to being out of character frustration with a topic area that can make people get more heated than they should. nableezy - 14:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't a personal attack, Hezbollah is designated as a terrorist organization, and you have a userbox saying you support it. You accused me of pushing propaganda for "Israeli war crimes," so please back off my talk page instead of being a self-righteous instigator. Bill Williams 21:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Neither parts of that are true, I didnt accuse you of anything, and I do not have a userbox that says I support any individual or group. Try reading carefully, it may help. I said unless youd like others to talk about your bias you should refrain from discussing others. If you repeat your slur on a talk page again, or remove the rpa template I placed, we can see how AE feels about it. nableezy - 21:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I should not have said the part about "bombing innocent people," and I apologize for that, I was referring to Hezbollah's actions [1] but I should not have said you support them. I apologize for accusing you of supporting those specific actions by Hezbollah. The word Hezbollah is not a slur, and your talk page links to the discussion where you stated your support for Hezbollah in your userbox [2]. You accused me of supporting war crimes, stating "And unless you would like somebody to discuss your insane bias that allows you to have Wikipedia endorse war crimes..." and never apologized. I am sorry for levying accusations of bias, but instead of threatening me and accusing me of supporting war crimes, please leave my talk page as I already requested, and stop arguing with me about my statement of what is in your userbox. Bill Williams 21:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Again, you misunderstood my point entirely. What I said was, because you said of another editor that they have an insane bias because they disagree with you, that unless you want somebody to make the accusation to you of the same you should refrain of doing so. I was not, and am not, saying you have an insane bias. I was not accusing you of supporting war crimes. It was saying unless you would like somebody else to throw the same accusations at you to keep them out of your comments. And if you are unable to read the userbox I cant help you, but Hezbollah is neither named nor linked. I also dont appear anywhere in the linked discussion either. You seriously misunderstand all parts of this, but I havent made any statement in support of Hezbollah, or any other group that I can think of besides maybe the Chicago Blackhawks, on Wikipedia. nableezy - 21:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I thought because the discussion involved Hezbollah that is what you meant that you supported. My apologies, I understand what you're saying, that you support other groups or individuals and did not name any one specifically. Regardless, you still accused me of supporting Israeli war crimes when all I said is that another editor had "insane bias," I should not have used the word "insane," but either way I still believe they have a high level of bias. You are still defending your accusation of me supporting war crimes by saying "unless you would like somebody else to throw the same accusations" what I said does not necessitate you stating I support war crimes. Bill Williams 21:55, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Im not defending it, Im saying it never happened. Please see the comment at the end of the section, you misread my intent in my comment. I am sorry for being unclear. nableezy - 21:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah my bad, I see your point. To be honest I quickly got sick of editing that page very soon after, because the discussions are far too heated and argumentative constantly to be reasonably civil. I should not have accused anyone of things however, that was my bad. Bill Williams 22:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alls well that ends well, we all good? I am sorry for my wording as well, and yes I prefer things to be less heated, and honestly in the limited interactions Ive had with you have seen you as having a particular POV but a perfectly capable editor and one that I could work with. I hope that you see me as the same and that we can return to that happy state. nableezy - 22:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah sorry about the accusations, and thanks for clearing things up. I do not have a particular POV in support of Israel if that is what you mean, in fact I fully support the two-state solution (although maybe three states as I think Gaza should also be independent as it does not seem to be able to functionally operate with Hamas conflicting with the PA) and think Israel's occupation of East Jerusalem and its numerous settlements in the West Bank are absurd and harmful to the people and the peace process, while Israel would bring great benefit to the Palestinians throughout the Levant by paying to help resettle many of them in the West Bank in place of its own settlers. However, for articles in general, I tend to prefer consistency, such as between Jerusalem and other disputed cities. And yeah, I might edit the article in the future, but not that much, as those discussions are too aggressive and I do not want to become involved in that very much. Bill Williams 22:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well I think everybody has a particular POV, the important part is how we edit. Take care, and hope you do come back to the article more often. nableezy - 22:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bill, please be careful with your statements. The Hezbollah is a designated terrorist organization by the United States,[1], Australian,[2]European Union,[3] the Arab League[4] and the Gulf Cooperation Council,[5] and their members Saudi Arabia,[6] Bahrain,[7] United Arab Emirates,[6] as well as Argentina,[8] Canada,[9] Colombia,[10] Estonia,[11] Germany,[12] Honduras,[10] Israel,[13] Kosovo,[11] Lithuania,[11] Malaysia,[14] Paraguay,[15] Serbia,[11]Slovenia,[16] United Kingdom,[17] and Guatemala.[18] However, you need to be careful about what you say about other users, in particular when their statements may be open for multiple interpretations. I recommend you avoid statements about other users, just address their arguements. Researcher (Hebrew: חוקרת) (talk) 19:19, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He said I had " And unless you would like somebody to discuss your insane bias that allows you to have Wikipedia endorse war crimes" therefore accusing me of supporting Israeli war crimes when all I said is a city should state its official mayor and symbols used, while he has a userbox advertising his support for a terrorist organization that blows up innocent civilians. A statement of fact is not a personal attack, I simply pointed out the irony of his statement. Bill Williams 21:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was quoting your accusation of insane bias against another editor, saying unless you would like people to discuss what they feel your bias is then you shouldnt discuss what you feel others bias is. Your therefore is as faulty as the rest of your statement. Repeat that slur once more and AE is where we go. Have a nice day, and Ill bid your talk page farewell, but if you think you can discuss me here while denying me a response you have that as confused as you do the rest of this. nableezy - 21:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry for the accusation of bias, that was unnecessary, but accusing me of supporting war crimes was completely unnecessary on your part. I also did not intend to state a slur, I was referring to Hezbollah's actions, but should not have stated that you support them. My apologies for that. Bill Williams 21:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bill, let me state very clearly, I am not accusing you of that. I did not accuse you of that. I dont have any reason to believe that of you. That was not my point at all. I am sorry if my wording was unclear. It was merely a do unto others remark about your comment to another editor. nableezy - 21:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
^Ministerio de Justicia y Derechos Humanos de la Nación. "RePET" (in Spanish). Retrieved 30 December 2020.
^"Currently listed entities". Public Safety Canada. Government of Canada. 21 December 2018. Archived from the original on 1 March 2020. Retrieved 30 December 2020.
