User talk:Irruptive Creditor
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North8000 (talk) 17:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Propylhexedrine article edits
Hi there, I noticed that you edited certain sections in the propylhexedrine article to describe recreational use as simply "not using for intended purposes" personally I don't really see any reason to get rid of the term "recreational use", especially considering there is an entire section named recreational use. Is there any reason for changing this? Were you also planning on changing the section name to reflect the changes you made? Frost.xyz | (talk) 22:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, that's what they are. I needed a way to clarify the differences in outcomes between therapeutic use and recreational use. For example, it needs to be clear that hospitalization or death are unlikely results of therapeutic use:
"The occurrence of these adverse effects is uncommon as propylhexedrine is generally recognized as safe and effective.[11] However, the use of propylhexedrine products in manners not intended by their labeling can result in severe adverse effects not typically encountered in therapeutic settings.[12][13][14] The outcomes of improperly using propylhexedrine products can include hospitalization, disability, or even death.[11]".
In this instance, it needs to be clear that therapeutic use is unlikely to cause serious adverse events. Instead, therapeutic use is only likely to cause the following:
"The most common adverse effects warned about for propylhexedrine inhalers are temporary discomfort (e.g., stinging or burning sensations) or worsened nasal congestion".
Also, the wording of 'manner inconsistent with its labeling' came before I replaced most instances with the term 'recreational use'. It also needs to be stated that propylhexedrine products such as inhalers, anorectics, and anticonvulsants are neither designed nor intended for recreational use and that both regulators and manufacturers have strongly advised against such actions. Irruptive Creditor (talk) 07:40, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- This wasn't a matter of politics or my personal views on recreational (or medical) use of psychoactive agents. I did this to avoid confusing consumers (of propylhexedrine products) who may otherwise not understand that recreational use of propylhexedrine products is different in terms of adverse events, dose, and means of administration. Without this, one ends up with silly claims like these on product reviews (that could end with people needlessly avoiding an effective medicine or seeking unneeded medical attention based on false beliefs of possible harms from said medicine). For example, this anecdote online falsely claims that propylhexedrine inhalant (Benzedrex) is dangerous for people with hypertension (it is not): "After using [propylhexedrine], my normal blood pressure elevated enough to put me in the ER. A basic online search confirmed it's dangerous". This is false, propylhexedrine inhalant (Benzedrex) is not unsafe for people with hypertension and is not required to carry any warning about hypertension when used therapeutically. The same is not true of recreational use according to FDA: "…[Signs of overdose include r]apid heart rate, agitation, high blood pressure, chest pain, tremor, hallucinations, delusions, confusion, nausea, and vomiting." Therapeutic use is safe for persons with hypertension; recreational use is not. I needed to make things such as this clear. Irruptive Creditor (talk) 08:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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