User talk:Jonh-Los

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Notability

Thanks for caring about Wikipedia principles and trying to keep it a correct source of information. But in the case of hamideh kaffash who was one of the most discussed person in news media in Norway in 2014 you are wrong. Someone who has been subject of significant coverage in multiple published and reliable secondary sources in Norway and other countries, is considered notable according to Wikipedia standard. Sedai2014 (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear @Sedai2014:. Your claim is that Kaffash "was one of the most discussed person in news media in Norway in 2014".

This is hardly true. According to the news archive and media analyst Retriever Norge, she was mentioned 15 times in norwegian newespapers during 2014, and so far seven times during 2015. In comparision, the mayor of Trondheim was mentioned 414 times, and the deputy mayor was metioned 84 times during 2014. Bw --Orland (talk) 18:43, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately the numbers you claimed for downgrading the notability of Hamideh Kaffash is not correct, either your search terms were not accurate or the tools you use is not competent. According to Google Hamideh Kaffash was at least 47 times mentioned only in NRK in addition to other major media outlet such as DN, Aftenposten, Adresseavisen and many times in university newspapers such as UA, Under Dusken etc. There are clear criteria for notability in Wikipedia that is not based on comparison with mayor of Trondheim.Sedai2014 (talk) 19:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Apologies to Jonh-Los for continuing this discussion here. Feel free to transfer it to Talk:Hamideh Kaffash.

Hello again, @Sedai2014:. The complete content of DN, Aftenposten, Adresseavisen and 178 other newspapers are all included in Retriever's archives. 22 hits total in 2014 and 2015, of which 12 in Adresseavisen, 4 in DN and none in Aftenposten. If Kaffash were mentioned in Aftenposten ([1]), in must be under another name or spelling. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Akbarnejad is however metioned 2 times in Aftenposten, both in april 2015.

Apologies for not including NRK in my search, but your number of hits is obviously misleading, as it includes articles as "Starter organisasjon mot renovasjon" from 2001. The comparision the the mayor is of course not very relevant, but gives some material to enlighted your claim that Kaffash "was one of the most discussed person in news media in Norway in 2014". Bw --Orland (talk) 07:02, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

@Orland:NRK aired her few times and has several articles on its website. "Starter organisasjon mot renovasjon" was also funny, my bad. This one should have been mentioned. About Aftenposten you are right, there was an altearnative spelling when she was mentioned at least here. I understand that you didn't like my loose statement on "most discussed person in news media in Norway in 2014", (maybe one of the most disscused researcher/PhD students in Norway in 2014 would be better), but do you have a general doubt on Kaffash's notability?Sedai2014 (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry Jonh-Los, I will transfer all these to the Talk:Hamideh Kaffash.