User talk:PennySeven

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We're so glad you're here! skip sievert (talk) 16:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

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Is there any chance you've still got those replies you were writing? You can place them here to be read, if you want that to happen. Master of Puppets 17:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

You are not interested in a discussion.

Sarek blocked you, I didn't. I didn't have any part in that. I was engaged in discussion with you. There's no ill will coming from me, trust me.

So yes, I am interested in a discussion. I'd like to see this end peacefully. However, that can't happen unless you're willing to work with me here. Master of Puppets 18:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing to be done about this.

I just have to stay away from the Inflation page. There are real mistakes on there, but, LK said that discussing anything will be edit warring: so, no discussion about those errors.

If LK did say that, then he was wrong. Discussion on a talk page is what we encourage for cases like this, and I could get all 1,500 administrators to agree on that. However, if the community decides it wants something separate from you, sometimes you just have to let go and let consensus do its part. Master of Puppets 18:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Imagine: Sarek is discussing - opposing - my proposal on the Inflation talk page after banning me for a week. It leaves me wondering ....

It is not the community: it is Lk. It is the silliest thing in the world to say that inflation only erodes and does not destroy value.

Well, are there any verifiable, reliable sources you can use to support your view? Master of Puppets 18:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

High inflation can destroy an economy and result in enormous hardship for everyone involved. [1]

Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis We might begin by asking ourselves, "Is inflation really such a threat? Can it actually destroy us?" [2]

BNP Paribas However, rising inflation combined with decreasing economic activity will destroy asset values. [3]

Citibank Inflation destroys value. [4]

Washington Post By problem, he means rising prices that destroy the value of money. [5]

Asian Times Hyperinflation is fatal because hedging against it causes market failures to destroy wealth. Normally, when markets are functioning, unhedged inflation favors debtors by reducing the value of liabilities they owe to creditors. Instead of destroying wealth, unhedged inflation merely transfers wealth from creditors to debtors. [6]

The Free Library Inflation destroys the value of money and hence of savings accounts. [7]

Inflation destroys consumption. [8]

How Inflation Will Destroy Home Owners Equity. [9]

Don’t Let Inflation Destroy the Benefits of your Long Term Care Insurance. [10]

Don't Let Inflation Destroy Your Pension. [11]

How inflation destroys wealth. [12]

However, inflation destroys this process. Inflation destroys real wage levels, i.e. productive capability. It favors those who have large debts, and it destroys the value of accumulated assets. It is unjust. Those who have over-borrowed see their debts effectively forgiven. Those who were prudent and have saved see their assets destroyed. [13]

This is nothing short of an express policy to destroy our money by inflation. [14]

The above are posted twice on the Inflation talk page with proper online links - I cannot copy them now because of the block.

You can still view the source of pages, so you can copy material. I'll go review this, though. Master of Puppets 18:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, it seems like they've made up their minds on this... though it's not much of a majority, it still is a majority that has established consensus. You've tried asking at WP:ECONOMICS, I assume? Master of Puppets 03:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

More constructive editing

Hi there,

I feel like you have some constructive and useful contributions to make to Wikipedia, but you're finding it difficult to do so in the collaborative way that is required in a multi-user project like this. You can't let yourself get bogged down in an all-out fight over an issue as minor as whether the proper word is "destroy" or "erode". You made the proposal to change it, no one agreed, now it's time to move on. You're making other good edits, please don't let this little issue result in the rest of your good edits being ignored. Sometimes the article won't be exactly how you think it should be. That's the nature of compromise. Thanks. kmccoy (talk) 04:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments.

I am at the moment too scared to communicate with you as a result of the latest activities here on Wikipedia.PennySeven (talk) 10:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)