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== Austenasia keep/merge consensus issue ==
'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Newbiepedian|Newbiepedian]] ([[User talk:Newbiepedian|Hailing Frequencies]]) '''at''' 09:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
<!-- use {{admin|username}} if the party is an administrator -->
*{{userlinks|Newbiepedian}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|InTheRevolution2}}
*{{userlinks|MikeWazowski}}

;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AInTheRevolution2&action=historysubmit&diff=476978825&oldid=472490035 InTheRevolution2]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikeWazowski&action=historysubmit&diff=476978881&oldid=476840736 MikeWazowski]

;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Austenasia&action=history MikeWazowski's main point refuted several times by both Newbiepedian and InTheRevolution2], no response by MikeWazowski, just carried on editwarring

=== Statement by Newbiepedian ===
On November 20, 2011, a [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Austenasia (2nd nomination)|deletion request]] for the article [[Austenasia]] was filed. This request, as the admin who closed the request ([[User:TParis]]) stated, turned up with no [[WP:Consensus|consensus]], the consensus being split between redirecting to [[List of micronations]] and keeping the article in place. Ignoring this, MikeWazowski, instead of filing a merge request, repeatedly redirected the article to [[List of micronations]], which both myself and InTheRevolution2 found ourselves almost constantly undoing.--[[User:Newbiepedian|Newbiepedian]] ([[User talk:Newbiepedian|Hailing Frequencies]]) 09:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Statement by InTheRevolution2 ===
(not needed, same case as User:Newbiepedian as evidenced in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Austenasia&action=history page history])--[[User:Newbiepedian|Newbiepedian]] ([[User talk:Newbiepedian|Hailing Frequencies]]) 09:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Statement by MikeWazowski ===

=== Statement by Berean Hunter ===
'''Speedy decline'''. It appears that the filer chose not to read the instructions in [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]] as stated at the top of the page. ArbCom is the ''last step'' in [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]]; the filer doesn't appear to have tried anything else in the process and jumped straight to here. The case will be declined.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<font face="High Tower Text" size="1px"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></font>]]</span> 12:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Statement by uninvovled Whenaxis ===
This is not an appropriate venue for arbitration. I suggest the Arbitration Committee to decline this case and defer to the [[WP:AN/EW|edit warring noticeboard]] (conduct) or to [[WP:MEDCAB|the mediation cabal]] for informal mediation (content). On behalf of the Mediation Cabal, I (and, perhaps some of the other mediators) would be willing to mediate this case for the parties. Thanks, <font size="2"><font face="BankGothic Md Bt">'''''[[User:Whenaxis|<font color="red">Whenaxis</font>]]''''' <small>[[User talk:Whenaxis|talk]]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;[[Special:Contribs/Whenaxis|contribs]]</small></font></font> 22:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

'''@AGK:''' My statement was a mere offer to informal mediation as an alternative to arbitration in response to PhilKnight's comments. I apologize if it appears otherwise. <font size="2"><font face="BankGothic Md Bt">'''''[[User:Whenaxis|<font color="red">Whenaxis</font>]]''''' <small>[[User talk:Whenaxis|talk]]&nbsp;<span style="font-weight:bold;">&middot;</span>&#32;[[Special:Contribs/Whenaxis|contribs]]</small></font></font> 02:33, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Clerk notes ===
:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).''
Per NYB, I suggest that we let this sit for at least a bit longer or notify all the parties of the arbs decision and the mediation cabal's offer. --[[User:Guerillero|Guerillero]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<font color="green">My Talk</font>]] 05:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

=== Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/7/0/0) ===
* '''Decline''' in the hope this dispute can be resolved without arbitration, which is often a lengthy and contentious process. This doesn't imply your dispute is unimportant, merely that arbitration isn't the best way to resolve it. Suggest having a look at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]] - there are several kinds of dispute resolution that could be useful. For the content side of the dispute, given the complexity of the issues, I would suggest the next stage is [[WP:MEDCAB|informal mediation]], and if there are more serious problems you could try either a [[WP:RFC|Request for Comment on content]] or [[WP:MEDCOM|formal mediation]]. For the user conduct dispute, if there are relatively minor concerns you could try [[WP:WQA|Wikiquette alerts]], and if there are more serious conduct problems, I would suggest a [[WP:RFC/USER|Request for Comment on user conduct]]. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 22:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' as a more suited issue for the currently running second AFD, or perhaps DRV. Deletion debates, the closure of them, and merge requests are not decided by this Committee, that concerns itself with serious conduct issues, not content ones. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:28, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
* I echo Courcelles and Phil's suggestions, and would '''decline''' this request. [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 22:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
::* While I agree with the supplementary statements that suggest this request was misguided, I am unhappy to see such a harsh treatment of what is [[WP:AGF|surely]] a good-faith request. Our suggestions to pursue alternative means of resolving this dispute would have been adequate. [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 01:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Content dispute. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:00, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per above. (Note to the Clerks: Even though it's clear this case will not be accepted for arbitration right now, please don't remove it from this page until the parties have a reasonable time to read and digest our comments. Thanks.) [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 23:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per above. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Kirill Lokshin|[talk]]]&nbsp;[[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|[prof]]]</sup> 23:45, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and a clerk can close this as not accepted at their convenience. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 05:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

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