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***Try a google search then. I'm not sure where you're looking, but I see a number of News articles and at least one Book discussing this character. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 18:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
***Try a google search then. I'm not sure where you're looking, but I see a number of News articles and at least one Book discussing this character. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 18:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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****Would you mind providing some links to those that you feel are good sources? I've just looked through 10 pages of google hits and only found fan forums, wikis, fan fiction sites, social networking sites, etc...nothing that would remotely qualify as a [[WP:RS|reliable secondary source]]. If the book you are referring to is ''[http://www.amazon.com/Opal-Deception-Artemis-Fowl-Book/dp/0786852895/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223405027&sr=1-1 Artemis Fowl: The Opal Deception]'', that is actually the fourth book in the ''Artemis Fowl'' series from which the character originates, not an independent book discussing the character. --[[User:IllaZilla|IllaZilla]] ([[User talk:IllaZilla|talk]]) 18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
****Would you mind providing some links to those that you feel are good sources? I've just looked through 10 pages of google hits and only found fan forums, wikis, fan fiction sites, social networking sites, etc...nothing that would remotely qualify as a [[WP:RS|reliable secondary source]]. If the book you are referring to is ''[http://www.amazon.com/Opal-Deception-Artemis-Fowl-Book/dp/0786852895/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223405027&sr=1-1 Artemis Fowl: The Opal Deception]'', that is actually the fourth book in the ''Artemis Fowl'' series from which the character originates, not an independent book discussing the character. --[[User:IllaZilla|IllaZilla]] ([[User talk:IllaZilla|talk]]) 18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*****The book I'm referring to is ''Fantasy Fiction'', by Frances Sinclair, ISBN 1903446465. You must be using a computer that blocks Google News for some reason, because [http://moreresults.factiva.com/results/index/index.aspx?ref=TOR0000020050428e14s00001 This Toronto Sun article] is the very first thing that comes up for me. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 18:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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This article consistes entirely of plot summary and original research. It completely fails NOT#PLOT and WAF. It fails to establish notability of its subject because it has no references of any kind, thus verifiability cannot be established either. Reliable secondary sources would be required to justify a stand-alone article for this character, and none appear to be available. The plot summary is already present in the individual articles about the books and is merely re-presented here under the guise of "Fictional character history". For original research, see in particular the second paragraph under "Artemis Fowl: The Opal Deception". IllaZilla (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Main antagonist of bestselling book series. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- ...which does not de facto or in an and of itself warrant an encyclopedia article. There are no references in the article to establish notability. Your argument does not address any of the concerns raised in the nomination. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Try a google search then. I'm not sure where you're looking, but I see a number of News articles and at least one Book discussing this character. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Would you mind providing some links to those that you feel are good sources? I've just looked through 10 pages of google hits and only found fan forums, wikis, fan fiction sites, social networking sites, etc...nothing that would remotely qualify as a reliable secondary source. If the book you are referring to is Artemis Fowl: The Opal Deception, that is actually the fourth book in the Artemis Fowl series from which the character originates, not an independent book discussing the character. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- The book I'm referring to is Fantasy Fiction, by Frances Sinclair, ISBN 1903446465. You must be using a computer that blocks Google News for some reason, because This Toronto Sun article is the very first thing that comes up for me. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Would you mind providing some links to those that you feel are good sources? I've just looked through 10 pages of google hits and only found fan forums, wikis, fan fiction sites, social networking sites, etc...nothing that would remotely qualify as a reliable secondary source. If the book you are referring to is Artemis Fowl: The Opal Deception, that is actually the fourth book in the Artemis Fowl series from which the character originates, not an independent book discussing the character. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Try a google search then. I'm not sure where you're looking, but I see a number of News articles and at least one Book discussing this character. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- ...which does not de facto or in an and of itself warrant an encyclopedia article. There are no references in the article to establish notability. Your argument does not address any of the concerns raised in the nomination. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)