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==Evidence presented by My very best wishes==
===[[WP:Battle]] by Icewhiz===
Icewhiz recently made this series of edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roman_Romkowski&diff=899334033&oldid=895278347],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_R%C3%B3%C5%BCa%C5%84ski&diff=899338962&oldid=895401121],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Helena_Woli%C5%84ska-Brus&diff=899055739&oldid=899055143],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salomon_Morel&diff=899222880&oldid=899221089],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Belorussia&diff=893917033&oldid=892237079], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Belorussia&diff=899328650&oldid=894688462][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poles_in_Belarus&diff=899208076&oldid=897632548],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides_by_death_toll&diff=898756098&oldid=898568874],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_genocides_by_death_toll&type=revision&diff=899183788&oldid=898912174],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Polish_sentiment&diff=899215854&oldid=898837035]. This looks like a systematic removal of sourced information about political repression of Polish population by the Polish communist regime and Soviet NKVD. ''None of the content Icewhiz removed was even remotely antisemitic'', except maybe only [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Helena_Woli%C5%84ska-Brus&diff=899055739&oldid=899055143 this (note edit summary)]. However, instead of simply removing "Jewish" (which would be reasonable), Icewhiz removes info that the person was involved in "in [[Stalinism|Stalinist]] regime [[show trials]] of the 1950s" and implicated in the arrests and executions. She is known as a state prosecutor during the [[Kangaroo court]]s. That info was well sourced on the page. With regard to several last removals, Icewhiz tells it was "just" an ethnic cleansing of Polish population, rather than genocide ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD#Recent_edits discussion]). Not according to many academic RS [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/713677598], [https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1078&context=jil]. No wonder, these edits by Icewhiz led to numerous reverts (mostly per WP:BRD) and disputes on these pages.

Why Icewhiz is doing this? To answer this question, one should look at the previous history of relations between Icewhiz and the same Polish users. There were several contentious WP:AE discussions, with some participants, like Poeticbent, loosing their temper and receiving their topic bans for cursing Icewhiz. I also noticed that Icewhiz said [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=900784690 this] (“a redline conduct issue”) meaning
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salomon_Morel&diff=897878533&oldid=897849153 this] edit by VM. What? It was written: "a Polish officer ... of the [[Polish People's Republic]]." VM removed one of the "Polish". That's fine. But somehow Icewhiz perceived this edit as "a redline conduct issue" because Morel "happened to be Jewish". This is a blatant ''misinterpretation'' by Icewhiz.

Given that, I believe this series of edits by Icewhiz does not really reflects his POV (an anti-Polish or whatever), but it was rather an elaborate game to provoke Polish users who will follow his edits, so he can cry wolf (aka wikistalking and tag-teaming) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Icewhiz/hounding] when it comes to submitting his WP:AE report or the arbitration request. No, as long as contributors work to improve content, I think this is not tag-teaming and wikistalking, but should be viewed as a productive collaboration. [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 15:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)



==Evidence presented by Icewhiz==
==Evidence presented by Icewhiz==

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Evidence presented by My very best wishes

WP:Battle by Icewhiz

Icewhiz recently made this series of edits [1],[2],[3],[4],[5], [6][7],[8],[9],[10]. This looks like a systematic removal of sourced information about political repression of Polish population by the Polish communist regime and Soviet NKVD. None of the content Icewhiz removed was even remotely antisemitic, except maybe only this (note edit summary). However, instead of simply removing "Jewish" (which would be reasonable), Icewhiz removes info that the person was involved in "in Stalinist regime show trials of the 1950s" and implicated in the arrests and executions. She is known as a state prosecutor during the Kangaroo courts. That info was well sourced on the page. With regard to several last removals, Icewhiz tells it was "just" an ethnic cleansing of Polish population, rather than genocide (discussion). Not according to many academic RS [11], [12]. No wonder, these edits by Icewhiz led to numerous reverts (mostly per WP:BRD) and disputes on these pages.

Why Icewhiz is doing this? To answer this question, one should look at the previous history of relations between Icewhiz and the same Polish users. There were several contentious WP:AE discussions, with some participants, like Poeticbent, loosing their temper and receiving their topic bans for cursing Icewhiz. I also noticed that Icewhiz said this (“a redline conduct issue”) meaning this edit by VM. What? It was written: "a Polish officer ... of the Polish People's Republic." VM removed one of the "Polish". That's fine. But somehow Icewhiz perceived this edit as "a redline conduct issue" because Morel "happened to be Jewish". This is a blatant misinterpretation by Icewhiz.

Given that, I believe this series of edits by Icewhiz does not really reflects his POV (an anti-Polish or whatever), but it was rather an elaborate game to provoke Polish users who will follow his edits, so he can cry wolf (aka wikistalking and tag-teaming) [13] when it comes to submitting his WP:AE report or the arbitration request. No, as long as contributors work to improve content, I think this is not tag-teaming and wikistalking, but should be viewed as a productive collaboration. My very best wishes (talk) 15:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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Placeholder. Expect to submit soon.Icewhiz (talk) 15:31, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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