Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far*East Movement
Far*East Movement
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Article that is about a non-notable band and written like an advertisement. Today I searched Google for any reliable sources that'd make this band meet WP:MUSIC but could not find any. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 11:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. Far*East Movement is notable and should be kept in Wikipedia for the following reasons:
- Far*East Movement's song called Round Round was featured on the The_Fast_and_the_Furious:_Tokyo_Drift_(soundtrack). The_Fast_and_the_Furious:_Tokyo_Drift was a major $85 million dollar Hollywood production. Far*East Movement's song Round Round is track number 5 on the soundtrack, and an alternative source is Amazon.com: [1]
- Far*East Movement produced the album ABC_(Jin_album) for Jin_(rapper). This album landed Jin a record deal in Hong Kong with the major recording company Universal_Music_Group. [2]
- The ABC album that Far*East Movement produced was recognized in the zh:2008年度叱咤樂壇流行榜頒獎典禮得獎名單#專業推介、叱咤十大 (2008 Ultimate Song Chart Awards in Hong Kong). The names of the members of Far*East Movement (Kevin Nishimura, James Roh, Jae Choung) were announced in the awards show. You can see the video of their names being announced at the awards show in this youtube video: [3]. Far*East Movement members' names are announced at around time 1:10 in the video.
- Far*East Movement's music is featured on MTV's website [4], the MTV Iggy website [5] and MTV News [6]
- I strongly feel that this article should be included in Wikipedia. - J3ff (talk) 12:02, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: OK, I think I sort of overreacted. Thing is that I thought that the group failed the notability guideline for music because last time I checked this group has never had a charting album or single on the U.S. Billboard charts. More specifically, as of right now, criterion 1 of that notability guideline excludes "publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves", in this case the several interviews the members of this group gave to a few minor websites. The MTV News feature might meet that criterion, though. However, keep in mind that a musician does not attain notability under Wikipedia standards simply for having his or her music hosted on even a major website like MTV as you pointed out.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Notable under Criterion #1 of musicians and ensembles: In addition to the MTV news coverage mentioned above, Far*East Movement has also been mentioned on the Daily 10 on E! [7] and were interviewed on Power 106, a major radio station in the Los Angeles area [8] I do not think these news interviews constitute "endorsement deals". The MTV news interview is not structured like an endorsement interview. Neither is the coverage from E! — J3ff (talk) 11:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding Jin's album: I opened up the video and heard Jin only mention their names but not specifically what they did. Maybe I'm missing something because I don't know Cantonese but personally a little bit of Mandarin. Could you please (honestly) translate it for other non-Cantonese Wikipedians? And no, FEM did not produce ABC; I checked the links provided and could not find its name under credits. Thus I still don't believe that FEM meets the notability standard--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Jin is not the one saying the names of the members of Far*East Movement. It is the announcer at the awards show saying the names. This link credits them on the HK UMG website as Far*East Movement: [9]. It says under ABC: "Produced by: Kevin Nishimura, James Roh and Jae Choung aka Far*East Movement" and "Arranged by: Kevin Nishimura, James Roh and Jae Choung aka Far*East Movement". This makes them notable under Criteria #1 of composers and lyricists — J3ff (talk) 10:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: OK, I think I sort of overreacted. Thing is that I thought that the group failed the notability guideline for music because last time I checked this group has never had a charting album or single on the U.S. Billboard charts. More specifically, as of right now, criterion 1 of that notability guideline excludes "publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves", in this case the several interviews the members of this group gave to a few minor websites. The MTV News feature might meet that criterion, though. However, keep in mind that a musician does not attain notability under Wikipedia standards simply for having his or her music hosted on even a major website like MTV as you pointed out.--Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Notable under Criteria #10 of musicians and ensembles "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc.": Far*East Movement's music has been featured in the soundtrack for the film The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, as mentioned above. — J3ff (talk) 10:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)