Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southeast Leatherfest (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. --PeaceNT (talk) 05:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Southeast Leatherfest

Last time we AFD'd this article, we had no consensus, but still - same issues: I still fail to see notability here, still no reliable sources, and the page is a mess to begin with. ViperSnake151 14:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. BDSM cultures purposefully are cautious about attracting media attention outside of their universes and are notoriously underground with websites replacing many of the local gay newspapers that used to cover events of this nature. Events such as Folsom Street Fair ar becoming more mainstream just as pornography and bondage cultures are so more mainstream sources will soon be available if not already. Article should be improved but needing clarity and sourcing is no reason for deletion. Benjiboi 20:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JERRY ^talk _contribs 00:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the sourcing problems should betaken into account. it is clearly real,and clearly a major event in its community.DGG (talk) 05:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. — madman bum and angel 16:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – If it needs more references, let's find some. As Benjiboi notes, that may be difficult, but we can do the best we can. Deletion is not a solution here for the same reasons it wasn't before. — madman bum and angel 16:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

krizaI did alot of the editting to this page and I am still new to the Wiki-world so doing sourcing for this is still a little bit of a mystery. I do know that SELF has been referenced in several larger papers and most of the Gay Press has mentioned the event in the past. if ViperSnake151 has a model of a clean site I will model it off of that.