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*'''Comment''' This issue has been discussed in some detail on the talk page of the article see [[Talk:Soviet occupations/Archive 1#WP:SYNT|Archive 1: WP:SYNT]] and the older [[Talk:Soviet occupations/Archive 1#The neutrality of this article is disputed|Archive 1: The neutrality of this article is disputed]] --[[User:Philip Baird Shearer|Philip Baird Shearer]] 12:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This issue has been discussed in some detail on the talk page of the article see [[Talk:Soviet occupations/Archive 1#WP:SYNT|Archive 1: WP:SYNT]] and the older [[Talk:Soviet occupations/Archive 1#The neutrality of this article is disputed|Archive 1: The neutrality of this article is disputed]] --[[User:Philip Baird Shearer|Philip Baird Shearer]] 12:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong delete'''. This article, as rightly noted by Dojarca, is a copy and paste from various existing WP articles, salted with some more POV by a user with a long standing disruption history. -- [[User:Grafikm_fr|<font color="Blue">'''Grafikm'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Grafikm_fr|'''<font color="red">(AutoGRAF)</font>''']]</sup> 14:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Soviet occupations

This article is a POV-fork and original synthesis, created by Estonian user Digwuren with long history of disruption (see blocklog: [1]), who also created (and attempted to re-create under other names) already deleted articles Denial of Soviet occupation and Estophobia. I was unable to add a deletion template into the article because it is protected due to permanent edit war. This article is a part of his campaign of creation of numerous POV-forks of existing articles, mostly related to Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact by copying text from them to the new article. The article includes information about various unrelated events throughout XX century from inter-war period until war in Afghanistan to create POV-oriented narrative or to depict them as somewhat related. Some of these events are not generally accepted to be occupations. No evidence presented that there is something in common between these events. We already have numerous articles covering the topic such as Occupation of Baltic states, Soviet invasion of Poland (1939), Soviet occupation of Latvia, Soviet occupation of Estonia, Prague Spring, Soviet war in Afghanistan and many others. Do we really need one more POV-fork consisting of re-compilation of already existing articles? Note the topic is havily occupied by related accounts.--Dojarca 08:12, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Once again (see 1, 2 and 3), Dojarca nominates an Soviet-related article created by Digwuren for deletion, giving the identity and ethnicity of the creator as the first and main reason for deletion.
As Dojarca kindly pointed out, there are various articles about Soviet occupations, this article serves as an overview of the phenomena. Most readers do not want specific details at first when interested of Soviet occupations, they want a generic overview - and that is what the article is for. If Dojarca is able to come up with specific details that he deems to be POV, then those could be fixed - or the other (properly sourced) viewpoint given. As for "original synthesis", there are almost hundred articles in Google Scholar and close to 300 books in Google Books even for exact search, several articles and books solely dedicated to dealing with phenomena.
Article itself is reasonably well written and referenced (25 references, full third of them scholarly books and many articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals). Many improvements could be made, but I can see no reason to delete it whatsoever.
-- Sander Säde 09:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article is a compilation from other articles. Hence it is sourced. Nothing unusual. The reason here is that the article is a POV-fork and unnecessary compilation of unrelated events, not your ethnicity.--Dojarca 09:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Would you kindly note that I am not Digwuren. And why do you mention his nationality - or the creator at all, is it somehow relevant to the deletion in your opinion. Compare it with AfD nomination "Delete Holocaust, because it is created by a Jewish user Hsiwej".
As for claim "sourced, because it is a compilation", then only lede has 5 independent sources, three of them scientific books and one peer-reviewed journal World Politics. And "unrelated events", they all are a part of Soviet Union and its foreign policy. Where else do you plan to give a general overview of specialties of Soviet occupations?
-- Sander Säde 10:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]