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One of the other purposes of Meta is to chase down and stop cross wiki-vandals. That's a noble purpose and we should be glad they do it. They don't really need the vast majority of us to participate in that. The discussions they have about policy are not binding on any project with its own policies and dispute resolution procedures, so they have literally no impact on this project. Given the friction and the fact that many users there don't want users from here coming over, there's is a simple solution: '''"Ignore Meta™"'''. The positive work they do is pretty much invisible, and the rest of it is irrelevant to this project, so don't waste your time subjecting yourself to the nastiness you are likely to encounter over there. Don't try to fix their badly broken dispute resolution processes or their complete lack of any guidance for administrative conduct. It won't make any difference to how things run here anyway. The exception is the yearly election of [[Meta:Stewards|stewards]], users who do the actual important wortk that Meta is there to coordinate. You need an account at Meta to participate in those elections, but you can still easily ignore the rest of it. |
One of the other purposes of Meta is to chase down and stop cross wiki-vandals. That's a noble purpose and we should be glad they do it. They don't really need the vast majority of us to participate in that. The discussions they have about policy are not binding on any project with its own policies and dispute resolution procedures, so they have literally no impact on this project. Given the friction and the fact that many users there don't want users from here coming over, there's is a simple solution: '''"Ignore Meta™"'''. The positive work they do is pretty much invisible, and the rest of it is irrelevant to this project, so don't waste your time subjecting yourself to the nastiness you are likely to encounter over there. Don't try to fix their badly broken dispute resolution processes or their complete lack of any guidance for administrative conduct. It won't make any difference to how things run here anyway. The exception is the yearly election of [[Meta:Stewards|stewards]], users who do the actual important wortk that Meta is there to coordinate. You need an account at Meta to participate in those elections, but you can still easily ignore the rest of it. |
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===Take the "Ignore Meta" pledge!== |
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The following Wikipedians have pledged to ignore Meta in order to stop the pointless feuding between the two projects |
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#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 21:28, 20 February 2012
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 | This page in a nutshell: Meta does some good things, but you probably don't need to pay much, if any, attention to it. |
Many users here at the English Wikipedia are unaware of the Meta wiki which supposedly exists for coordination between the various Wikimedia Foundation projects. If you are one of those users, you should be grateful that you don't know anything about this project and should avoid it altogether as it is not particularly relevant to your activities here.
What's the problem?
The problem is that the English Wikipedia is far and away the largest Wikimedia project. Meta wiki is pretty small. So, when an issue from here spills over to Meta, there is an influx of English Wikipedia users commenting there. When this happens with other projects, it is seen as what it is, the natural and indeed intended purpose of Meta. When it involves the English Wikipedia, it is seen as an invasion, and many administrators there show open hostility toward this project. Additionally, Meta has become a haven of sorts for various malcontents who are banned or blocked from the English Wikipedia. For some reason many of the folks at Meta believe it is important to give people who have disrupted one WMF project a chance to screw things up at another one, and these users are given considerable leeway to attack both this project and the individual users unlucky enough to encounter them over there. Users who primarily contribute from here can get blocked more easily than their regulars or users from other projects. There is a palpable air of hostility towards "invaders" from this project.
Fortunately it really doesn't matter
One of the other purposes of Meta is to chase down and stop cross wiki-vandals. That's a noble purpose and we should be glad they do it. They don't really need the vast majority of us to participate in that. The discussions they have about policy are not binding on any project with its own policies and dispute resolution procedures, so they have literally no impact on this project. Given the friction and the fact that many users there don't want users from here coming over, there's is a simple solution: "Ignore Meta™". The positive work they do is pretty much invisible, and the rest of it is irrelevant to this project, so don't waste your time subjecting yourself to the nastiness you are likely to encounter over there. Don't try to fix their badly broken dispute resolution processes or their complete lack of any guidance for administrative conduct. It won't make any difference to how things run here anyway. The exception is the yearly election of stewards, users who do the actual important wortk that Meta is there to coordinate. You need an account at Meta to participate in those elections, but you can still easily ignore the rest of it.
=Take the "Ignore Meta" pledge!
The following Wikipedians have pledged to ignore Meta in order to stop the pointless feuding between the two projects
- Beeblebrox (talk) 21:28, 20 February 2012 (UTC)