Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kwork

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Statement of the dispute

Kwork, has demonstrated over and over again that he does not understand core wikipedia polices, has no interest in learning them and is here at wikipedia for one purpose, to teach the world about Alice Bailey's alledged anti-semitism. Anyone who disagrees with his very clear POV is attacked, criticized or seem as part of a conspiracy.


Desired outcome

Kwork be banned from editing any article related to Alice Bailey, until his editing on other articles demonstrates that he can follow the core policies, and WP:AGF those who disagree with him.

Description

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Evidence of disputed behavior

Lack of understanding of core policies

WP:NPOV [[1]] [[2]]

WP:PSTS, self-published sources [[3]] [[4]] [[5]] (along with a "threat" of deletion) [[6]]

WP:RS [[7]] [[8]] [[9]]

WP:V [[10]]

WP:NOR [[11]] [[12]] [[13]] [[14]] [[15]]

Unwillingness to look at policy

Numerous time people have asked Kwork to review a policy or quoted a policy and asked Kwork to abide by it. Each times he brushes it off.

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Extreme lack of WP:AGF/No understanding of WP:COI

Anyone who disagrees with Kwork is an Alice Bailey defender, in cahoots with others, "not neutral" or behaving "unethically."

For example, when an editor agreed with Kwork he said this [[19]] and this [[20]] and this [[21]]; later when she disagreed he attacked her [[22]]

Here are more examples: [[23]] [[24]] [[25]] [[26]] [[27]] [[28]] [[29]] [[30]] [[31]][[32]] [[33]][[34]]

Here he posted his whole conspiracy theory (i.e., editors who don't agree with him must be meatpuppets) on the talk page (and then continued to attack anyone he lumped in this group): [[35]]

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Thank Sethie for his input. Let me know if he has anything intelligent to say; or, perhaps, Sethie could contribute something to the article, rather than to the talk page. Kwork 18:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC) [[37]]

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[[40]] (Neebish meaning "A weak-willed, timid, or ineffectual person")

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WP:POINT/Bad faith edits

Kwork has demonstrated that when he doesn't get his way, he will disrupt the page


[[45]] [[46]] To retaliate for people asking for sources for his criticisms, he removed... the entire article. [[47]]

Here Kwork removed an entire section because I asked for citations, and later said I had "destroyed the section": [[48]]

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Here Quark constantly says that the page lacks enough sources... and then he removes two of the few we have!: [[50]] [[51]]

Deletes bona fide references [52][53]


When we did not do as he wished, he attempted to nominate the page for deletion.... [[54]]

COI

Ex-Student of AAB

In many articles, it seems it is the "ex" members of groups that are the most vociferous critics and find it the most difficult to work with other editors to create a neutral article. Kwork appears to fall into this category of "ex's".

  1. ... On the other hand, I have ended all my

connections with the AAB teaching and its followers years ago.... Kwork 20:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

  1. ...I have broken away from the AAB teaching

(which I now suspect is a hoax).... Kwork 13:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

  1. ...As you know perfectly well, I was the personal

student of a person in the teaching who was second in importance only to Bailey herself, and I was his student for over five years... Kwork 14:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


Misunderstanding of WP:COI

Kwork's understanding of WP:COI is that someone who is close to a set of teachings disqualifies one from editing per WP:COI

It is a question of "closeness" to the Alice Bailey teaching. That is a consideration. Kwork 22:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It does not have to be a personal relationship. "Conflict of interest can be personal, religious, political, academic, financial, and legal." In this case the devotion to the Alice Bailey teaching would be called religious, and it is problematic. And it is not problematic just for Jamesd1, but virtually every editor of this article....including, perhaps, SqueakBox.Kwork 22:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


Religion seems to be driving edits

Kwork says he is Jewish, and this seems to color his edits (makes him very emotional about what should or should not be in the article regarding antisemitism) [[55]] [[56]] [[57]] [[58]] [[59]] [[60]] [[61]] [[62]] [[63]] [[64]]


Here is Kwork's first entry on wikipedia [[65]]

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After his additions which were full of OR and unsourced claims were toned done by Adhoc and Squeakbox, Kwork replied with this: [[67]]


Applicable policies and guidelines

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  1. WP:NPOV
  2. WP:AGF
  3. WP:RS
  4. WP:SOAP
  5. WP:PSTS
  6. WP:V
  7. WP:NPA


Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. On Kwork's talk page, I listed three or so core policies that I felt he was not following, and sought to engage him in dialogue. His response to this was to dismiss what I said and further engage in WP:NPA. He then had his talk page deleted. Sethie 18:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  2. RfC, which brought in two people: Bksinoob and Renee. As soon as they disagreed with Kwork he responded thusly:

Bksinoob: [[68]] [[69]]

Reneehollee: [[70]]

  1. Here are some attampts to dialogue with him on his talk page, which he did not respond to, and erased [[71]] [[72]]

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

  1. Sethie 19:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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