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*Alexyflemming: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=590964575&oldid=585324647 (→‎Edit request: I agree with E4024. The introductory text in first paragraph is definitely wrong.)]
*Alexyflemming: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=590964575&oldid=585324647 (→‎Edit request: I agree with E4024. The introductory text in first paragraph is definitely wrong.)]
* A3000B: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=next&oldid=371757121 (LEVELS OF ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND MILITARY DEPENDENCIES OF NORTH CYPRUS TO TURKEY IS GIVEN IN THE RELATED HEADINGS (economy, politics, military) IN THE ARTICLE)]
* A3000B: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=next&oldid=371757121 (LEVELS OF ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND MILITARY DEPENDENCIES OF NORTH CYPRUS TO TURKEY IS GIVEN IN THE RELATED HEADINGS (economy, politics, military) IN THE ARTICLE)]
;Disruption on the talkpage of Northern Cyprus
Revives a discussion from 19 January 2013 from last year involving ARBMAC blocked editor {{u|E4024}} and uses him in his list of supporters to advance his synthesis, while at the same time asking that the time stamps and signatures of the editors commenting be removed: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=592781593&oldid=592709221].

This is for starters. Additional diffs on request. Thank you. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC) [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
This is for starters. Additional diffs on request. Thank you. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC) [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)



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Justice Forever

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28 January 2014

– This SPI case is open.

Suspected sockpuppets
Summary

All socks try to find evidence of increased acceptance of Northern Cyprus in the areas of UN declarations, Sports, (especially Billiards and Tae Kwon Do), and university education. They also have a habit of using walls of text and write loud remarks on talkpages. They also use original research and synthesis to advance their POV. I know this is stale for CU but I submit the following evidence based on behavioural grounds.

Comparative analysis
Topic:
Sports (Billiards, Taekwon do and other)
Tae Kwon Do
The Kosovo declaration
Freedom House
Education in Northern Cyprus
Loud all capitals in discussions

Including bombardment with walls of text: [1]

Disruption on the talkpage of Northern Cyprus

Revives a discussion from 19 January 2013 from last year involving ARBMAC blocked editor E4024 and uses him in his list of supporters to advance his synthesis, while at the same time asking that the time stamps and signatures of the editors commenting be removed: [2].

This is for starters. Additional diffs on request. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
To Summary part:
Since the lack of recognition of Northern Cyprus restricts it in many sport branches, its accepted sport branches (rather a little number) seems to being spotted is normal.

"walls of text": Every serious wiki-user supports its arguements with references and strong evidences. This may take little long compared with instant and non-supported info and data.

"loud remarks on talkpages": The simplest thing to differentiate a text is capitalize it. Though that, there are many edits that I used boldface and italics. See my edits since 20 February 2010.

"usage of original research and synthesis to advance their POV": I refer the articles that citing other articles as references. If one clearly see my edits since 20.02.2010, this can be seen clearly. Also, I don't have any intention to advance my edits.
Notice that even when many wiki users share my thoughts in Talk pages, I still wait other wiki-users to share the same things, or even further contribute with different thoughts: Here is just one proof:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=592682665&oldid=592537514
Edit summary of the above edit: "I am listing the supporters of the proposal. Let people that support and disagree the proposal participate the poll with the reasoning of their vote."
As is clearly seen, I have no aim to promote my ideas. I strongly try to collect counter ideas as well!

I will reply the other claims as well. Please wait. Till that, please observe the following.
1. Background: I am a very old Wiki-user. My first edit: 20 February 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Pool-Billiard_Association&oldid=345174463

2. I do not need to copy myself for gaining an extra advantage or something else in Wikipedia. Just the opposite, I try to convince the other Wiki-users in Talk Pages of Wikipedia articles. Look:
I am accused to enter an edit war at 21.01.2014 19.04:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alexyflemming&diff=prev&oldid=591752969

See the accused edit war in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Cyprus&action=history

Though that we (I and some other wiki user) talked many things and reached consensus in the Talk page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Cyprus&diff=592158491&oldid=592157321

And, I did not make any edit about the thing discussed as is seen from 21.01.2014 17.00.
That is to say, the claimed edit war never happened. Observe even after we reached the consensus in the talk page, I did not process the consensus to the article page since I want many wiki-users to share the consensus we reached.

3. Edit merits are all different:
Statistically:
Items...Users Alexyflemming(me) Justice_Forever Combined
Unique pages: 37 11 2
Edit count: 91 18 29(me)/3(jf)
Normal edit time: 28.0101 22.684

Please wait while I am preparing the replies of other claims. There are so many accusations!

Education in Northern Cyprus: See the huge difference about the subject of claimed edits; one is "no. of univ. students in a country", and the other is "accreditation of one of the universities in that country". It is a fact that every edit in an article advances that article. Hence, contributions by adding the recent developments and news about the education of one country should not be confused with its promotion, especially from the perspective of "increased acceptance of a country". Because, when viewed in that way, not only me, but also evey wiki user contributing that page by editing the current developments can be regarded as socpuppettry. This is valid not also for me, for that issue, but also for other wiki users and for other wiki articles as well. I request wiki admins especially notice this difference. Could we regard all the contributors to an issue (an ordinary wiki article) all sockpuppettry?

Freedom House case: As seen clearly, I am updating a statistics and data in Wiki article for the year 2014. Another wiki user can update for the year 2015, etc. The updaters of a statistics or data in a wiki article are clearly not sockpuppeters of each other. I kindly request the moderators of Wikipedia to pay attention to this difference. Obsolete and not-up-to-date statistics and data in Wikipedia must be made. The coincidence of the edits in that respect should not be regarded as puppet. Look when one read a wiki article, one may aware the oldness of the info, and react it. There are many wiki articles with little info, hence, the subjects of edits of may coincide in many case.

Abuses of others: I cooperate with Wikipedia authorities whenever I see an abuse. This is valid, even well before this sockpupettrry claim, Look: I desired help ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Abuse_response&diff=592554312&oldid=580508095 ) in 26.01.2014 for the disastrous edits of others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trikomo,_Cyprus&diff=592764797&oldid=592690564
I do not observe any cooperation of the justice forever with Wikipedia. Alexyflemming (talk) 11:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One last note. My wiki username is not puppet, it is my name and surname. Do not hesitate to contact with me via alexyflemming at gmail dot com Alexyflemming (talk) 10:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  • Alexyflemming has said on my talk page, that just need some more time to organise their defence and put it on this page. Would patrolling admins please give him some time to reply to the claims above. Thanks, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]