Talk:Blackjack

Regarding the countermeasures paragraph that was added, it is worth mentioning that this depends on the location of the casino; in Atlantic City it is illegal for casinos to ban card counters, so they rely more on things like using large shoes and giving poor penetration as countermeasures. Actually, some elaboration of the whole penetration issue is probably warranted here as well (the deeper the penetration into the deck before a reshuffle, the more useful card counting becomes--but the tradeoff for the casino is that a lesser penetration means more time involved with reshuffling instead of dealing cards, so they get less money from non-card-counting players). -- Egern

That is, unless (as in poker), there are workers dedicated to shuffling decks.

Are there any casinos that do that at blackjack tables? -- Egern

I've seen it at the Biltmore and the Cal-Neva in North Shore, Lake Tahoe

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I removed the following paragraph on retribution against card-counters as I think it is pretty controvesial and needs some verification.

The consulting firm does many quasi-legal or illegal things to discourage counters. The IRS may be tipped off to unreported gambling income. Organized crime may be informed of the identities of the counters; since counters carry large quantities of chips and cash, they are good targets for theft. The consulting firm may arrange for the card counters to be beaten. Since the consulting firm is doing it, and not the casino, the casino is not liable for the consultant's actions. In any event, the consulting firm is very careful that no proof of its activities is available. Such accusations are recorded in various books written by former card counters.

Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 21:30, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)