File:Formation of the F5 Hudsonville, Michigan tornado 1956.png

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Reason for the nomination:

Well, this image isn't the F5 Hudsonville tornado, it's the F4 Saugatuck tornado, and it isn't forming, it's dissipating, but that's all beside the point!

The uploader sourced this image from a National Weather Service history page. The photo was taken by Jarvin Kleiman, a resident of the area at the time, and provided to an NWS researcher by a member of the local historical society. Mr Kleiman passed away in 2002.[1]

Correspondence with the NWS researcher confirms:

they have independent evidence confirming that Mr Kleiman took the photo from his home (meaning that it is not the work of the NWS or another US government agency)
they are not specifically aware of any prior publication of this photo.

I have forwarded this conversation to the VRT (ticket:2024100210010644)

He did think that it might have appeared in newspapers of the time. However, searches of local newspapers on newspapers.com and newspaperarchive.com failed to turn up this specific image. I focused on The Grand Rapids Press, the Holland (Evening) Sentinel and The Holland City News for the weeks following the event, plus the 10-, 20-, 25-, and 30-year anniversaries of the disaster.

The Grand Rapids Press did run another photo by Mr Kleiman, taken within moments of this one, and I have uploaded it with the correct description here: File:Dissipation of the F4 Saugatuck, Michigan tornado 1956.jpg. It is definitely free of copyright and can be used in place of this image if we delete it.

As a photo taken in the United States prior to 1989, its copyright status rests on whether, when, and in what context it was first published.

In this particular case, there is no known publication before 2006, when the NWS published a series of articles to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the disaster.[2]

There is no evidence that Mr Kleiman ever released this image into the public domain, and there is no way to ask him now.

Therefore, per COM:ONUS unless anyone can provide evidence that:

this particular image was published prior to 1989 without following copyright formalities (like the other one from this series was) OR
Mr Kleiman ever released this into the public domain or under a free license OR
his estate or heirs ever released this into the public domain or under a free license or would be willing to do so now

this image is presumably protected by copyright that will not expire until 2073, 70 years after Mr Kleiman's death, and we cannot host it on the Commons.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

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{{subst:delete2|image=File:Formation of the F5 Hudsonville, Michigan tornado 1956.png|reason=Well, this image isn't the F5 Hudsonville tornado, it's the F4 Saugatuck tornado, and it isn't forming, it's dissipating, but that's all beside the point!

The uploader sourced this image from a National Weather Service history page. The photo was taken by Jarvin Kleiman, a resident of the area at the time, and provided to an NWS researcher by a member of the local historical society. Mr Kleiman passed away in 2002.[3]

Correspondence with the NWS researcher confirms:

they have independent evidence confirming that Mr Kleiman took the photo from his home (meaning that it is not the work of the NWS or another US government agency)
they are not specifically aware of any prior publication of this photo.

I have forwarded this conversation to the VRT (ticket:2024100210010644)

He did think that it might have appeared in newspapers of the time. However, searches of local newspapers on newspapers.com and newspaperarchive.com failed to turn up this specific image. I focused on The Grand Rapids Press, the Holland (Evening) Sentinel and The Holland City News for the weeks following the event, plus the 10-, 20-, 25-, and 30-year anniversaries of the disaster.

The Grand Rapids Press did run another photo by Mr Kleiman, taken within moments of this one, and I have uploaded it with the correct description here: File:Dissipation of the F4 Saugatuck, Michigan tornado 1956.jpg. It is definitely free of copyright and can be used in place of this image if we delete it.

As a photo taken in the United States prior to 1989, its copyright status rests on whether, when, and in what context it was first published.

In this particular case, there is no known publication before 2006, when the NWS published a series of articles to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the disaster.[4]

There is no evidence that Mr Kleiman ever released this image into the public domain, and there is no way to ask him now.

Therefore, per COM:ONUS unless anyone can provide evidence that:

this particular image was published prior to 1989 without following copyright formalities (like the other one from this series was) OR
Mr Kleiman ever released this into the public domain or under a free license OR
his estate or heirs ever released this into the public domain or under a free license or would be willing to do so now

this image is presumably protected by copyright that will not expire until 2073, 70 years after Mr Kleiman's death, and we cannot host it on the Commons.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

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Summary

Description	English: The F5 Hudsonville tornado shortly after touching down.
Date	3 April 1956
Source	https://www.weather.gov/grr/1956TornadoOutbreakSaugatuckHolland
Author	Jarvin Kleiman

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	Date/Time	Thumbnail	Dimensions	User	Comment
current	01:45, 24 July 2020		764 × 932 (394 KB)	ChessEric	Uploaded a work by NOAA from National Weather Service with UploadWizard

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File:Formation of the F5 Hudsonville, Michigan tornado 1956.png

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3 April 1956

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