File talk:Commonwealth realms map.svg

Map is incorrect - Bangladesh was a former commonwealth realm when it was the Eastern part of Pakistan.

Yes , someone pls add bangladesh to the list coz it was a part of British India till 1947 when it became a part of Pakistan. Similarly , Burma/Myanmar was a Commonwealth realm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.212.56 (talk) 09:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense to me. Bangladesh as such, never was a CR and now it seems as if it was. With the same logic Zambia, Zimbabwe, Malaysia and Namibia should also be colored red. All formerly a part of CR's..... Gerard von Hebel (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Burma was never a Commonwealth Realm -- it became a republic immediately upon independence. --Jfruh (talk) 17:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Egypt

Egypt was a Commonwealth realm... MrTranscript (talk) 17:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Egypt was never a commonwealth realm, which is defined as an independent state that used the British Monarch as its head of state, like Canada or Australia. Egypt was a protectorate under the British Empire, but always had a native monarch during that period. --Jfruh (talk) 18:51, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Guyana

Maybe I don't understand the commonwealth realm but Guyana is part of the commonwealth. Why is it shown as a former commonwealth realm. It use to be part of the British Empire and was controlled by the British until its independence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.36.172.55 (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

"Commonwealth realm" doesn't mean a member of the Commonwealth; it means a country that became independent but retained the British Monarch as their head of state, as Canada, Australia, etc. do. Guyana had such a political system upon independence but became a republic thereafter. It's still in the Commonwealth, but it's no longer a Commonwealth realm. --Jfruh (talk) 02:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Malta

Malta was also a commonwealth realm and should be on the map. --Jfruh (talk) 18:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Rhodesia

Rhodesia was a commonwealth realm for a short period. MrTranscript (talk) 21:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

It was never recognised as such it was considered a British Colony at the time and upon independence became a republic called Zimbabwe. Lemonade100 14:49, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Newfoundland

Newfoundland was a Commonwealth Realm (or Dominion) once. Although it couldn't afford to remain one because of financial reasons, and was administered as a UK crown colony for a part of the 30's and 40's, it formaly remained a Commonwealth Realm until it joined Canada in 1949. So here we have a territory that at the same time is a former Commonwealth Realm and part of a current one. Unwieldy isn't it! 87.208.3.170 (talk) 00:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC) (Gerard von Hebel)

No, it wasn't. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

• Yes it was, if Ireland counts, then so does Newfoundland which remained formally a dominion until 1949Threadnecromancer (talk) 23:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)Threadnecromancer

A suggestion

I don't know how to edit this image, but I have a suggestion which I think would improve it.

The map has big blue dots for the current realms which are small island states, which makes them much easier to see. Similar big brown dots would make it easier to see the small island states which are former realms -- Fiji, Malta, Mauritius, Trinidad & Tobago.

Figured out how to do this and have made the change, it shouldn't be controversial. --Chris Bennett (talk) 20:35, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, someone asked about Rhodesia. This is an odd case. While certainly not a Commonwealth realm in the normal sense, it was de facto an independent state which proclaimed Elizabeth II as its monarch. It seems unhistorical not to indicate this somehow. Maybe by colouring it in some other colour or shade -- a very pale brown perhaps??

--Chris Bennett (talk) 23:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Hong Kong

As it was part of the UK it was a commonwealth, i think : /

With the same logic Zambia, Zimbabwe, Malaysia and Namibia should also be colored red. All formerly a part of CR's... Now they are not colored red but somehow Bangladesh is..... Gerard von Hebel (talk) 22:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

There seems to be a great deal of confusion as to what a Commonwealth realm is on this talk page. It's an idependent country that uses the British monarch as its head of state. As such Hong Kong was never one, as it wasn't independent. Zambia, Zimbabwe, and Malaysia never were either.

The logic behind coloring Bangladesh as one is that it was part of Pakistan when Pakistan was a Commonwealth realm. I can see the arguments on both sides, I guess. Namibia could be stretched into the same defnition, I suppose, although I'm not sure if South Africa ever formally annexed it, and that annexation definitely wasn't recognized internationally if so. --Jfruh (talk) 13:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Not quite: A Commonwealth realm is a sovereign country in the Commonwealth of Nations that has as its own monarch the same person who is also monarch of the other realms. The British monarch reigns in Britain only; if Britain became a republic, the other realms would remain monarchies. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, perhaps it's a stretch but you could argue that former British colonies were once a part of that (the UK) commonwealth realm, because the UK is one also. Namibia was at some time a mandated territory of South Africa. Papua New Guinea is a commonwealth realm now and used to be part mandate and part colony of an other one (Australia). Newfoundland briefly enjoyed the status as well (although the term CR wasn't used at that time). It's complicated.Gerard von Hebel (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

To outdated for use?

I don't think this file should be used anymore, except maybe to show a historical situation. Dutchy45 (talk) 05:38, 11 September 2022 (UTC)