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since East and West Norse are differentiated, the map should also indicate High, Middle and Low German; also, the High German territory should be extended to include the Highest Alemannic speaking parts of the Alps (eastern Valais), as well as the Italian part of the Tirol. dab (ᛏ) 23:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are more mistakes in this map:

Low Franconian (=Dutch) is indeed spoken in Belgium, but the line should run from the most southern tip of the Netherland (Limburg) straight to the coast. It should follow the border of Flanders, which obviously does not start near Luxembourg.

No form of Frisian is spoken in modern day Denmark. The North Frisian language that is drawn on the map should actually be positioned just south of the Danish-German border. It's spoken in the district of Nordfriesland.

The East Frisian language is not spoken along the coastal line of Ostfriesland, but in a small area in the heart of that disctrict (=Saterland).

The Norwegian language has two official forms: Nynorsk and Bokmål. Since the latter (and most used version) was based on the East North Germanic language of Danish, it's seems logical to me that Norway should be striped in light and dark blue (or something like that).

Black1Night 23:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And Low German should be extended to the eastern Netherlands. Ulritz 07:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- it seems that the map was essentially made by bucket-fill. There is also no way all of Norway is Norwegian-speaking (Sami, uninhabited areas). Do we have a good source to base fixes on? dab (ᛏ) 09:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could the mix-up regarding the Germanic language zone starting near Luxembourg be due to the German-speaking minority in easternmost Belgium? Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red line

What does the red line do east of Danzig? It seems to indicate that Swedish was never spoken on the islands of Estonia and in the Gulf of Riga, which is historically untrue. It would be just as bad to draw the red line along river Daugava, so I suggest that the part east of Danzig is just removed. --LA2 10:43, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find the positioning of the red line regarding the Frisians very odd. The Frisian language is naturally West Germanic (not North Germanic) but it is spoken in Nordfriesland south west of the Danish-German border but this map moves this area north of the border into Denmark. I have never heard about any Frisians in Denmark except for possibly a very small minority on the south west border with Germany (the region around Vidåen). I have seen many maps showing Frisians in Southern Schleswig but never in Northern Schleswig. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! Blank1Night had spotted this one as well. Still needs fixing though. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish is an official language in Nuckö, Estonia, but the map doesn't show any Germanic speakers in that region. (Stefan2 18:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Flanders

Large parts of the Belgian provinces of West and East Flanders are coloured grey even though they are Dutch speaking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.206.196.217 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Rest of Europe

Don't Switzerland and Austria speak German, at least partly? I would edit it myself, but this requires an expert. Dyamantese 17:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All of Austria speaks German and so does most of Switzerland. The zones indicated on the map look ok to me. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

inconsistent

if bits of Switzerland get to be edited out, then surely so should bits of Wales, Scotland, Ireland (because of Celtic languages still being first languages in those areas) and also sections of the far north of Norway (because of the Sami languages). --86.144.101.168 (talk) 11:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

true -- but only the areas where a non-Germanic langauge is clearly prevalent. That is, the dark green bits here, the green bits here and the purple bits here. For Sami perhaps the dark yellow bits here, although they do not denote majority language, just "recognized language". There are other possibilities for improvement, such as blanking the uninhabited bits of the Alps, the Nordic tundra and the glaciers in Iceland. This discussion should properly be moved to commons:Image talk:Europe germanic-languages.PNG. dab (𒁳) 16:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish-Norwegian border

Living in the vicinity of the border between Sweden and Norway, I can assure you that there's traditionally a dialect continuum where there's no clear border between East and West Scandinavian. If one is to be drawn, it should be somewhere east of the national border. // JiPe (217.208.139.31 (talk) 00:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC))[reply]