File talk:Theological positions.svg

This diagram was created by someone who either doesn't know how venn diagrams work or doesn't know what the words mean. you're either theist or atheist. Those are the two positions on theism. And you're gnostic or agnostic. Those are the two positions on whether it's possible to know something. Gnostic theists, Agnostic theists, gnostic atheists and agnostic atheists. That's eveyrone. There's no such thing as an atheist who is neither agnostic nor gnostic. This image should be changed.

Before it comes up - deism is not a form of theism. Pantheism is a form of theism. And this ignosticism, which I've never heard of but immediately understand what it refers to, smells a lot like a subset of agnosticism. If the choices were "do we cross the road" and someone yelled out "Yes" and another "No" and another "What is a road! Define road!" I would mark that down as 1 for and 2 against crossing the road.

• Firstly, this is not Venn, but Euler diagram. Secondly, while it is true that there are no (a)theists that are not also (a)gnostics, you've missed the point of the diagram. It shows that "stances" about belief and knowledge are different ones - that one cannot be only agnostic or gnostic in relation to belief. One is always either theist or atheist in relation to belief. And one is always gnostic or agnostic in relation to knowledge. In the end, people usually don't discuss their "theological positions" - they are interested in whether or not someone believes in so called god. The answer to that question is yes or no, or theist or atheist. If someone wishes to supplement the answer, they are free to add (a)gnostic adjective. Marekich (talk) 21:52, 31 March 2013 (UTC)