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{{Outline of knowledge coverage|Africa}} |
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== Countries == |
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Shouldn't this article contain a policical map showing simply the names of each country? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 10:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:It does, in the section Politics. I think that map is better, since the regular map clogs up places with a lot of small countries.'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 06:59, 8 December 2008 (UTC) |
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==Portuguese Africa== |
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There was no decolonization in [[Portuguese Africa]] before 1974 and the [[Carnation Revolution]] in Lisbon. So I removed Angola from the list. [[User:Licor|Licor]] ([[User talk:Licor|talk]]) 16:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== 46 or 53? This makes no sense as currently written. == |
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The text read: |
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::"There are 46 countries including Madagascar, and 53 including all the island groups." |
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This seems devoid of meaning. It's like saying "the human body has nine fingers including the left thumb, ten including all the thumbs." I will edit it to "There are 53 countries, including Madagascar and all the island groups." [[User:Zadignose|zadignose]] ([[User talk:Zadignose|talk]]) 12:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Credo Mutwa tells the True History of Africa - Part 1== |
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Credo Mutwa tells the True History of Africa - Part 1 |
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http://www.youtube.com/v/bf0o4TkoObo&hl=en&fs=1" |
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[[User:PsychoBlaze|PsychoBlaze]] ([[User talk:PsychoBlaze|talk]]) 04:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Please see [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources]]. By the way, wkipedia is not about truth, but about what credible sources say the world is. And a youtube video saying ancient peoples and modern ruling elistes are descendent of a cross between humans and a reptilian extraterrestrial race that controls wordl history is hardly a credible source. [[User:The Ogre|The Ogre]] ([[User talk:The Ogre|talk]]) 14:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== History section == |
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I note that the "To Do" bar repeatedly calls for summarizing the history section (per [[WP:SS]]) and pointing the reader to appropriate sub-articles for the details. I think this needs to be a priority. [[User:Blueboar|Blueboar]] ([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]) 15:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== New satellite image showing N America and Asia to scale == |
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I have added a new satellite image [[:Image:Africa-asia-america-to-scale.jpg]]. The previous satellite image did not demonstrate the sheer enormity of Africa, into which you could fit the US & Canada several times over. I used [[NASA World Wind]], which generates public domain images, to create a frieze which clearly shows Africa's huge size in comparison to these other familiar landmasses. Please feel free to reposition/resize the thumbnail to make the article layout flow better. [[User:Evilandi|Andrew Oakley]] ([[User talk:Evilandi|talk]]) 14:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Wot!! No geology?? == |
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The word is not even mentioned anywhere. Did some bureaucrat remove it, or was a section on something this important regarded as trite. Amazed.... [[User:Rotational|Rotational]] ([[User talk:Rotational|talk]]) 11:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, I think no bureaucrat did anything for it. I think it is a blatant neglect, that might be caused by the unpleasant message: |
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::This article may be too long. |
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:I specifically miss the word "Gondwana" in the Africa article, that is the supercontinent that broke up into Africa, South America, Antarctica and Australia. Said: [[User:Rursus|Rursus]] ([[User talk:Rursus|☻]]) 11:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC) |
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This section needs work. I suggest looking at "The History of Africa" by Tulus Abuduan. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Zulu212|Zulu212]] ([[User talk:Zulu212|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zulu212|contribs]]) 00:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Physical Features == |
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I have been to Africa and correct me if I'm wrong but I've noticed a few things. Most of Africa is a high plateau covered with deserts, lush rainforest and dry grasslands. It is crossed by rivers, which bring water to dry regions and provide communications. Although they lie on the Equator, the high peaks in the east and snow-capped all year! Africa has several Volcanoes, when I heard that I got a bit frightened. [[User:Little Miss Clever|Little Miss Clever]] ([[User talk:Little Miss Clever|talk]]) 20:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC) |
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What country in Africa have you been to? you cant simple say I have been to africa and most of africa is high plateau, covered with lush rainforest, dry grasslands, rivers and volcaneos. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.26.14.45|76.26.14.45]] ([[User talk:76.26.14.45|talk]]) 10:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== {{tlx|editsemiprotected}} Lack of accuracy in the "Africa" Article. == |
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The article about Africa has the following text, that is not accurate: |
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"Africa straddles the equator and encompasses numerous climate areas; it is the only continent to stretch from the northern temperate to southern temperate zones." |
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The American Continent also stretchs from the northern temperate to southern temperate zones.<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jaimergonzalezh|Jaimergonzalezh]] ([[User talk:Jaimergonzalezh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jaimergonzalezh|contribs]]) 15:94, 10 November, 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:I may be wrong, but I believe you're talking about two continents. [[North America]] and [[South America]] are two different continents. --'''[[User:Skunkboy74|<span style="color:black">DA</span> <span style="color:black">Skunk</span>]] - [[User talk:Skunkboy74|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]]''' 23:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::There is some difference of opinion as to whether North America and South America are one or two separate continents. Most English language sources will describe them as two separate continents, whereas many Spanish language sources will call them one continent as "America". The user who posted this also changed the [[Americas]] article right after posting this to change the phrase "North and South American continents" to "regions". The [[continent]] article does go into detail about the different naming conventions, but the consensus was to describe the seven continents, conventionally named, as Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America. [[User:Kman543210|Kman543210]] ([[User talk:Kman543210|talk]]) 00:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== please add IW link == |
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<nowiki>[[</nowiki>wuu:非洲<nowiki>]]</nowiki> |
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;lksdnf;laksd <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.89.27.140|97.89.27.140]] ([[User talk:97.89.27.140|talk]]) 21:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Politics section== |
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The politics section seems to be mostly about the [[African Union]] - rather like saying that politics in Europe is all about the [[EU]] (couldn't be further from the truth). |
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Also there's stuff in there which isn't about politics so much as economics.[[Special:Contributions/93.96.236.8|93.96.236.8]] ([[User talk:93.96.236.8|talk]]) 20:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== New Colonial Map == |
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I recolored the map of colonial Africa, to make it look nicer. Can I use it in this article? [[User:Linguist Writer MentalPatient]] ([[User talk:Linguist Writer MentalPatient|talk]]) 01:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC) |
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It's here: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ColonialAfrica-2.png] |
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== How many countries in Africa? == |
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I note that the wikipedia article states that there are 53 countries - but if you count the countries it then lists, there are 54 listed. So how many are there, and what are they? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.115.114.85|78.115.114.85]] ([[User talk:78.115.114.85|talk]]) 16:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I think the disputed territory of Western Sahara isn't counted as a country here, hence the number 53, but it's still listed later in the article. I'll add a mention that Western Sahara isn't counted to the first paragraph to make this clearer. [[User:Mkaksone|Mkaksone]] ([[User talk:Mkaksone|talk]]) 14:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Archiving and talk page cleanup == |
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I have done the following: |
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* redirected [[Talk:Africa/to do]] here and removed the to-do template from the top of the page |
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* moved older content on this page to [[Talk:Africa/Archive 4]] |
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* gotten rid of the small parameter on the templates on the top and put the banners in a shell |
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* added a [[User:Miszabot]] opt-in, archiving sections on this page that are older than 3 months |
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* removed [[Template:Archive box]], since by some magical process it is appearing at the bottom of [[Template:talkheader]] and is redundant |
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- [[User:BanyanTree|Banyan]][[User talk:BanyanTree|Tree]] 00:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Religion in Africa == |
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the article says <<The World Book Encyclopedia has estimated that there are 150 million Muslims and 130 million Christians in Africa, while Encyclopedia Britannica estimates that approximately 46.5% of all Africans are Christian and another 40.5% are Muslim>> |
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how can the number of Muslims be larger, but the percentage of Christians is larger? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/155.247.54.142|155.247.54.142]] ([[User talk:155.247.54.142|talk]]) 19:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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On another issue: this is a small thing, but there's something misleading about the language here. When you say that 46% are Christian and 40% are Muslim and the rest follow indigenous religions, it sounds as if the whole continent has been converted by missionaries or something. But Jerusalem and Mecca are both ''just barely'' outside the arbitrary and imaginary line that separates Africa from other continents. People following an 'indigenous' religion may well have imported it from a further distance. Maybe someone has heard a way to put this that avoids confusing connotations? [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 07:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Changing the Table == |
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The table could do with changing to tidy it up. Why can't we use the [[South American]] template? Smaller text will probably help to tidy it up a bit: |
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! [[Country]] or <br>[[Territory (country subdivision)|territory]] with [[flag]] |
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! [[List of countries by area|Area]]<br>(km²)<ref name="factbook2008">Land areas and population estimates are taken from ''The 2008 World Factbook'' which currently uses July 2007 data, unless otherwise noted.</ref>(per sq mi) |
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! [[List of countries by population|Population]]<br>(July 2007 est.)<ref name="factbook2008" /> |
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! [[List of countries by population density|Population density]]<br>per km² |
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! [[Capital (political)|Capital]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Argentina|{{flag|Argentina}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|2766890|{{km2 to mi2|2766890|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 40,677,348 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1430|14.3/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 14.3 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Buenos Aires]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Bolivia|{{flag|Bolivia}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1098580|{{km2 to mi2|1098580|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 9,247,816 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0810|8.1/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 8.1 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[La Paz]], [[Sucre]]<ref>[[La Paz]] is the administrative capital of [[Bolivia]]; [[Sucre]] is the judicial seat.<br></ref> |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Brazil|{{flag|Brazil}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|8514877|{{km2 to mi2|8514877|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 191,908,598 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|2200|22.0/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 22.0 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Brasília]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Chile|{{flag|Chile}}}}<ref>Includes [[Easter Island]] in the [[Pacific Ocean]], a [[Chile]]an territory frequently reckoned in [[Oceania]]. [[Santiago, Chile|Santiago]] is the administrative capital of Chile; [[Valparaíso]] is the site of legislative meetings.<br></ref> |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0756950| {{km2 to mi2|756950|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 16,454,143 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|2110|21.1/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 21.1 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Santiago, Chile|Santiago]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Colombia|{{flag|Colombia}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1138910|{{km2 to mi2|1138910|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 45,013,674 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|3770|37.7/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 37.7 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Bogotá]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Ecuador|{{flag|Ecuador}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0283560| {{km2 to mi2|283560|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 13,927,650 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|4710|47.1/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 47.1 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Quito]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Falkland Islands|{{flag|Falkland Islands}}}} ([[United Kingdom|UK]])<ref>Claimed by [[Argentina]].<br></ref> |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0012173| {{km2 to mi2|12173|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 2,967 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0024|0.24/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 0.24 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Stanley, Falkland Islands|Stanley]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|French Guiana|{{flag|French Guiana}}}} ([[France]]) |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0091000| {{km2 to mi2|91000|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 221,450 (Jan. 2008)<ref>{{fr icon}} {{cite web| url=http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/tableau.asp?reg_id=99&ref_id=CMRSOS02137| title=Population des régions au 1er janvier| first=Government of France| last=[[INSEE]]| accessdate=2009-01-20}}</ref> |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0210|2.7/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 2.1 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Cayenne]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Guyana|{{flag|Guyana}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0214970| {{km2 to mi2|214970|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 770,794 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0360|3.6/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 3.6 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Georgetown, Guyana|Georgetown]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Paraguay|{{flag|Paraguay}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0406750| {{km2 to mi2|406750|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 6,347,884 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1560|15.6/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 15.6 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Asunción]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Peru|{{flag|Peru}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1285220|{{km2 to mi2|1285220|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 28,220,764 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|2170|21.7/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 21.7 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Lima]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands|{{flagicon|South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands}} [[South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands|South Georgia and<br>South Sandwich Islands]] (UK)}}<ref>Also claimed by Argentina, the [[South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands]] in the [[Atlantic Ocean|South Atlantic Ocean]] are commonly associated with [[Antarctica]] (due to proximity) and have no permanent population, only hosting a periodic contingent of about 100 researchers and visitors.</small><br></ref> |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0003093| {{km2 to mi2|3093|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 20 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0000|0/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 0 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Grytviken]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Suriname|{{flag|Suriname}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0163270| {{km2 to mi2|163270|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 438,144 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0270|2.7/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 2.7 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Paramaribo]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Uruguay|{{flag|Uruguay}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0176220| {{km2 to mi2|176220|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 3,477,778 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|1940|19.4/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 19.4 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Montevideo]] |
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|- |
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| style="text-align:left;" | {{sort|Venezuela|{{flag|Venezuela}}}} |
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| align="right" | {{sort|0912050| {{km2 to mi2|912050|abbr=yes|precision=0}}}} |
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| align="right" | 26,414,815 |
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| align="right" | {{sort|2780|27.8/km² ({{formatnum:{{#expr: 27.8 * 2.589988110336 round 1}} }}/sq mi)}} |
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| style="text-align:left;" | [[Caracas]] |
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! Total |
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| align="right" | {{nts|17,824,513}} |
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| align="right" | {{nts|382,426,313}} |
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| align="right" | 21.5/km² |
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[[User:Nightmayor|Nightmayor]] ([[User talk:Nightmayor|talk]]) 09:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Africa is not poor <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CalvinChenng|CalvinChenng]] ([[User talk:CalvinChenng|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CalvinChenng|contribs]]) 23:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Economy of Africa == |
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Although it has abundant natural resources, Africa remains the world's poorest and most underdeveloped continent, due to a variety of causes that may include the spread of deadly diseases and viruses (notably HIV/AIDS and malaria), corrupt governments that have often committed serious human rights violations, failed central planning, high levels of illiteracy, lack of access to foreign capital, and frequent tribal and military conflict (ranging from guerrilla warfare to genocide).[50] According to the United Nations' Human Development Report in 2003, the bottom 25 ranked nations (151st to 175th) were all African.[51] |
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This may all be true but it is because of white supremacy and imperialism, not due to any inferiority of Africans. It is stated as if these things just happened without a cause. This should be reworded to elucidate cause and effect. |
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[[User:Nfamous|Nfamous]] ([[User talk:Nfamous|talk]]) 17:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)nfamous |
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:I agree. US & UK still can't believe their [[multinational corporations]] cause world poverty. [[User:Stars4change|Stars4change]] ([[User talk:Stars4change|talk]]) 16:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Spelling mistake: It's for its == |
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Where it says "The Nri kingdom is famous for it's elaborate bronzes, found at the town of Igbo Ukwu." |
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It should say: |
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"The Nri kingdom is famous for its elaborate bronzes, found at the town of Igbo Ukwu." |
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[[Special:Contributions/200.112.136.137|200.112.136.137]] ([[User talk:200.112.136.137|talk]]) 04:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== A suggestion: == |
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In the info box on the top right of the article it says: |
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Population: #### |
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Density: ### |
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Shouldn't it be like the Europe article where it says "Pop. Density", not just "Density" ? |
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Sorry if I'm being anal =) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Obhave|Obhave]] ([[User talk:Obhave|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Obhave|contribs]]) 10:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Playpump Intl== |
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Could we add a link to [[Roundabout PlayPump]] because they desperately need water & playthings for children, & it might get some rich people or corporations to buy & donate some to poor nations: http://www.playpumps.org/site/c.hqLNIXOEKrF/b.2559311/k.7BCB/Playpumps_International_and_the_PlayPump_water_system_Kids_play_Water_Pumps.htm [[User:Stars4change|Stars4change]] ([[User talk:Stars4change|talk]]) 20:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:And also add a link to [[Plumpy'nut]] for famine relief to save lives?[[User:Stars4change|Stars4change]] ([[User talk:Stars4change|talk]]) 17:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC) |
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hej med jer, afrika er et stort land med farlige løver