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==Comment== |
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Dont ADD Rubish |
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There's all this stuff about Eddie Futch through the 1970's and Yhanzee Durham dieing in Frazier's early professional career section. This information should be interspersed through the article in the relevent areas. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.77.165.103|114.77.165.103]] ([[User talk:114.77.165.103|talk]]) 00:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==minor fix== |
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partially blind in one eye doesnt = he fought with partial sight |
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Acutally that's exactly what it means, partial = part of the whole = incomplete. Although partial sight might suggest he is more sight impaired than he was. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.77.165.103|114.77.165.103]] ([[User talk:114.77.165.103|talk]]) 12:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== No style? == |
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theres nothing here talking about Joes style of boxing, he fought low with his head down much like the boxers did back in the 30's and 20's and before that. It was very different style and technique than what people were doing at the time. |
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== picture? == |
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This article could use an image of Frazier. [[User:Neilc|Neilc]] 21:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC) |
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this article is shit. no structure, no talk of anything worthwhile, no boxing discussion. This man is one of boxings greatest ever, the only man to every legitamately beat Ali. Surely he deserves a decent article. |
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Edited discussion of boxing match with mayor - this is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag. |
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No this is wikipedia, a bias nonsense gossip webpage. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.77.165.103|114.77.165.103]] ([[User talk:114.77.165.103|talk]]) 12:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Editing References? == |
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I just wanted to change Fraizer to Frazier in a couple references, but when I try to |
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edit that section, I see a virtually blank edit page. I guess it's "outsourced" to some |
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other file, like CSS or something? [[User:Tharsaile|tharsaile]] 17:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== First paragraph == |
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I'm considering to edit the following: |
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*'' Frazier was known for a driving, relentless pursuit of opponents from all angles across the ring, using a chugging locomotion reminiscent of a train's advance up a hill. The contrast with Ali's dancing, non-linear style could not have been greater. '' |
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What does it mean? Is it referring to Fraziers forward bobbing and weaving fighting style compared to Ali's backward reflex-oriented style? Or his it referring to Fraziers relentless attack compared to Ali's pop and jab style? And I'm surprised there is no mention of his vicious left hook, which is considered one of the best in boxing history. [[User:Maya Levy|Maya Levy]] 04:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I don't think it's a very cohesive sentence anyway. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.77.165.103|114.77.165.103]] ([[User talk:114.77.165.103|talk]]) 12:08, 18 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Uncle Tom== |
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Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" in the buildup to the first fight, not the third fight.-2/17/07 |
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Why is this not mentioned in the article? Ali's racist taunting of Frazier during the build-up to all three fights has cast a shadow over Frazier's entire boxing career. This article also fails to mention how Frazier helped Ali get his boxing licence back and gave him money before the fights. This is important (and undisputed) information which changes the whole tone of the article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.177.142.138|80.177.142.138]] ([[User talk:80.177.142.138|talk]]) 12:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.180.188.5|86.180.188.5]] ([[User talk:86.180.188.5|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== First American Heavyweight to win an Olympic Gold Medal? == |
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That must be news to Sam Berger, Ed Sanders and Pete Rademacher <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.7.223.111|65.7.223.111]] ([[User talk:65.7.223.111|talk]]) 05:46, August 28, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Ok, I fixed it. I rewrote the sentence to reflect that Joe Frazier was the first American boxer to win the Olympic gold medal in the heavyweight division and the world title in the heavyweight division. I believe that was the intent of the original author. --[[User:DreamsAreMadeOf|DreamsAreMadeOf]] 17:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::That's correct. Many fans forget that Ali won his gold medal in 1960 as a light-heavyweight. --[[User:NameThatWorks|NameThatWorks]] 17:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC) |
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I think it should be added that Joe only went to the Olympics because Buster Mathis was injured and he was the only man in the American boxing team to win the gold. He also won the fight with a broken thumb that he kept hidden to avoid being disqualified. This was on the HBO special about Joe Frazier. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/114.77.165.103|114.77.165.103]] ([[User talk:114.77.165.103|talk]]) 00:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Box Like the Pros == |
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Joe Frazier wrote a book called "Box Like the Pros" where should we mention this. [[User:The K.O. King|The K.O. King]] ([[User talk:The K.O. King|talk]]) 17:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:In my opinion in de section "1990s to present." -- [[User:Iterator12n|Iterator12n]] <font color="Blue"><span style="font-size: 0.8em;"><sup>[[User Talk:Iterator12n|Talk]] </sup></span></font> 20:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC) |
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==Too much about Ali in the [[Wikipedia:Lead section|introduction]] == |
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The introduction makes it seem like Ali's taunts was Frazier's claim to fame--like half of the intro is on that! This article is about Joe Frazier and Ali's taunts doesn't show much about him. I am moving them to their own section for now just to get them out of the intro, but they should be interspersed throughout the article. [[User:Madridrealy|Madridrealy]] ([[User talk:Madridrealy|talk]]) 05:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Frazier's losses== |
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Must mention Frazier's 2 losses to Ali and 2 losses to George <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.199.102.218|68.199.102.218]] ([[User talk:68.199.102.218|talk]]) 01:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Check this fact == |
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Frazier never spoke with Futch again.[3] |
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Frazier was just on Stern, and when stern asked about the guy, Frazier didn't seem mad at him at all, and talked in a manner about him that really makes me question this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.198.57.217|68.198.57.217]] ([[User talk:68.198.57.217|talk]]) 03:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== WTH?????????? == |
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Didn't Ali win the 14-round match, not Frazier????????? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Minimal man|Minimal man]] ([[User talk:Minimal man|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Minimal man|contribs]]) 01:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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