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== Edit request from AurelioG == |
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The quick fact table on the left of the page lists Peru as the 43rd country population wise, however the page with the complete list linked from the number lists Peru as number 40. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AurelioG|AurelioG]] ([[User talk:AurelioG|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AurelioG|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:{{ESp|d}} — [[User:Bility|Bility]] ([[User talk:Bility|talk]]) 19:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== Badly lacking: a ''Politics of Peru'' new section == |
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In the article, the treatment of Peru's '''contemporary politics''' is not just lacking, it is terribly poor and dismal. In this respect, the article is outdated, too. An urgent [[overhaul]], or better: a whole new section on the subject, a new article perhaps, are badly needed. --[[User:AVM|AVM]] ([[User talk:AVM|talk]]) 14:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:Why is it outdated, official results on this year Congressional election are not out yet and as for the presidential election we still have a run-off election to get a new president so until then I think no mayor update is needed. As for needing a new article, we already have [[Politics of Peru]]. --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] ([[User talk:Victor12|talk]]) 04:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::I agree with Victor12. The Government section already serves the purpose of being a summary of the information. No tag is necessary because the material is correct.--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 23:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== Official Languages == |
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I did add Quechua and Aymara as official languages as stated in the Peruvian Constitution of 1993... I speak Quechua... --[[User:Giraldezjota|Giraldezjota]] ([[User talk:Giraldezjota|talk]]) 07:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:As you can read in article 48 of the current Peruvian Constitution ''Son idiomas oficiales el castellano y, '''en las zonas donde predominen''', también lo son el quechua, el aimara y las demás lenguas aborígenes, según la ley''. This situation is already explained in a note in the infobox. --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] ([[User talk:Victor12|talk]]) 13:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::There exists a [[Languages of Peru]] article. I propose to edit this into the note in the infobox so that others may find it, read it, and possibly expand it. I will edit it in for the time being, but if anyone disagrees feel free to revert the edit and discuss. Best regards.--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 21:43, 26 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== New President == |
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Sorry for the quick addition - the new president wasn't added, but his bio exists in the database. I updated who is president and will get to fleshing this out ASAP. [[User:David.cormier|LTC (Ret.) David J. Cormier]] ([[User talk:David.cormier|talk]]) 23:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hello, he is not the president yet, he will assume office on July 28. --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] ([[User talk:Victor12|talk]]) 04:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== Wars with Ecuador == |
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As I was reading the history section, I noticed an important part of Peruvian history which is not in the text: The border conflicts with Ecuador. In particular, the war of the 1940s, which established the Rio Protocol and the borders. I'd be willing to include maybe a sentence or two on the subject, but first I'd like to know if anyone else would like to give it a shot, any other ideas and suggestions, or if anyone is opposed to the idea. Best regards.--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 05:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:Here is a sample sentence which could be included in either the 4th or 5th paragraphs of the History section: |
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<blockquote>The Rio Protocol of 1942 defined Peru's borders with Ecuador, but it took until 1995 for the final demarcations to end one of the longest territorial disputes in the Western Hemisphere.</blockquote> |
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:Suggestions are welcome.--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 22:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Flag of Peru == |
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There seems to be a dispute over the flag of Peru in the article. I don't really know which is more appropriate according to Peru's law (the civil or the state ensign), but perhaps it is worth discussing here in the talk page?--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 04:34, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hello, this issue has already been discussed but, as this page archive's seem to have been pruned, I'm pasting the discussion below. --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] ([[User talk:Victor12|talk]]) 13:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Image:Flag_of_Peru (state).svg |
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I wonder which of these should be used on the infobox --'''''[[User:Andersmusician|<font color="green">Andersmusician</font>]] [[user_talk:Andersmusician|<font size="3" color="red">$</font>]]''''' 05:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:After reading [[Flag of Peru]] it seems to me we should use the first one as that is the National Flag (''Bandera nacional'') as opposed to National Ensign (''Pabellón nacional'') which is the one with the coat of arms in it. Besides there is no need to show the coat of arms twice, side by side. I've changed the pic accordingly. What does everybody else think? --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] 17:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:It's been changed to state flag again. The national flag seemed fine to me, but not to everyone it seems. Can we put the national flag here and wait for more reactions before changing it again? [[User:Ericbronder|Eric Bronder]] 04:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Oops, I've reverted before checking this out. I'm sorry, I won't change the flag anymore until there's a clear consensus. --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] 11:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Sorry [[User:Victor12|Victor12]], my phrasing was a bit off. I noticed someone else changed it from national to state flag and i remembered this discussion, so i made the note above. I think we should change it to the national flag as has been the flag shown for the last two months. But to prevent someone from changing it to the state flag again i added the note to end the discussion and create "jurisprudence". [[User:Ericbronder|ErickAgain]] 16:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:The National flag is by far the most probable one to be encountered by people, be it on television, sporting events etc. The state flag is to be used by the government only. We also do not use the military flag. If we reach consensus we can change it back to the one we decide upon now, by refering to this discussion. [[User:Ericbronder|ErickAgain]] 16:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::I agree we need jurisprudence. I'd also go for the national flag. As a further argument, the [[Constitution of Peru|Constitution]] says "The national symbols are the flag with three vertical bands, in red, white and red, and the coat of arms and the national anthem established by law". --[[User:Victor12|Victor12]] 16:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::As Erick said, the non-insign flag is more recognized everywhere, so I support the "normal" flag on infobox from this point of view. --'''''[[User:Andersmusician|<font color="green">Andersmusician</font>]] [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Andersmusician|<font size="1" color="red">VOTE</font>]]''''' 05:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC) |
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This touches on the concern I raised [[Talk:Flag of Peru|here]]. The national flag is used for sports teams, yes or no? |
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[[User:Eaefremov|eae]] 02:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)}} |
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::I don't agree with the point of "jurisprudence" in Wikipedia, as consensus is subject to change. Nonetheless, the points raised in the discussion are quite valid. I'd like to add that this article isn't just about the Peruvian state, but about Peru as a whole: Geography, culture, demographics. The only two sections state-related are Government and Regions, and maybe also History and Etymology. Something else I'd like to note is that, in the past (not sure how long back), the state flag ''was'' the only other flag option aside from the war flag, but the civil flag eventually was made separate to the state flag (to represent both private organizations and civilians). This mainly concerns sports-related matters (old [[Peru national football team]] mentions, such as in the 1930s World Cup, are going to have the state flag since that ''was'' the official flag for them at the time, while new mentions of the team will have the civil flag since they are a non-government organization).--[[User:MarshalN20|<span style="color:red">'''MarshalN20'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:MarshalN20|<sup><font color="Red">'''T'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''a'''</font><font color="Yellow">'''l'''</font><font color="Red">'''k'''</font></sup>]] 13:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC) |
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