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==School in Asia?== |
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Just wondering if we should have a subcategory for the meaning of school for Asian/Third World countries since we have the different school systems for Europe, North America, US, etc. I feel like this will eliminate the apparent/perceived Eurocentric bias that some articles might have. For example, for the Asian school system, we might mention the cultural history of how a traditional academy was perceived? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.234.135.238|69.234.135.238]] ([[User talk:69.234.135.238|talk]]) 18:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Tiny edits by a random == |
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Not a regular editor, but a couple of tiny things irked me, so I changed them. One was a typo, but the second adjusted content slightly. The bullying bit finishes on a very peculiar note, but before it rather implied that bullying led to suicide almost by default. I tidied up the wording, but I think the point could still be expressed better through a more detailed analysis. School was a word used by the latins to express how badly they felt about smelly socks. |
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The definition of school is entirely opinionated. School definitely does NOT encourage learning <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.244.121.87|96.244.121.87]] ([[User talk:96.244.121.87|talk]]) 00:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Links == |
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:Correct - adding links is not vandalism. My bad. However, adding a link to the same site from multiple pages - http://rise.f2o.org - is considered [[linkspam]] and is against Wikipedia policy. Cheers. --[[User:PhilipO|PhilipO]] 18:46, September 6, 2005 (UTC) |
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== the hindi interwikilink given is wrong == |
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correct link is [[hi:विद्यालय]] <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}|{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{IP|{{{User|59.94.148.119}}}}}}|talk]]) {{{Time|{{{2|}}}}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> |
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== first sentence == |
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This is a technicality, but many educators would not agree with the implication that students learn ''from'' teachers. (Teachers don't just dispense information) I would change it to "A school is an institution where students (or "pupils") learn with the help of a teacher." but this sounds better: "A school is an institution where teachers help students (or "pupils") learn." |
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Does anyone agree this might be a more technically correct description of what happens at schools? |
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Yes I would agree that students no longer learn from teachers but I would phrase that by saying "A school is an institution where student learning is facilitated by teachers" or "A school is an institution where teachers facilitate students' learning". I don't teach English so feel free to correct any grammar. [[User:Sarahmc92|Sarahmc92]] ([[User talk:Sarahmc92|talk]]) 21:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Caption for picture == |
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"A typical school entrance building in Australia" is a bad caption for the picture, for one its not a "typical" school entrance |
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== NPOV -- Student stress in school ==I deleted the following sentences from the sub-section 'Stress': Not to mention the pressure on the students! In school, they are judged mercilessly based on sparse test grades, The dreaded Standardized Tests, and their peers.These sentences are POV. Please refer to WP:NPOV. The stress on students is an important topic that should probably be included in this section. However, it should be written from a NPOV standpoint with references to studies linking stress and school or studies/experiments that prove stress exists. While we all know students do undergo stress in school, from an encyclopaedic point of view it needs to be backed up with verifiable references and sources to document that it indeed does exist. [[User:Josborne2382|Josborne2382]] 22:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reguarding stress, the section only covers it from the teachers' point of view, which means it's not neutral. I moved the POV tag to that section and as a little girl i knew school was going to be boring for me because i was smarter then the avrege girl/3rd grader. --[[User:Pwnage8|Pwnage8]] ([[User talk:Pwnage8|talk]]) 22:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC):As far as the stress thing goes, I was gonna say the same thing. My first thought upon reading that subsection was, "EXCUSE ME? This is about how stressful it is for the ''teachers???'' ''THE TEACHERS???'' Omfg..." My first thought upon reading the "Discipline" subsection was, "Hey! This is only from the teachers' point of view! WHAT ABOUT THE STUDENTS??!! :'(" As a student who has had an extremely stressful semester, I found it very belittling to see not a single mention of how students might view this whole thing.</br>:Another thought I had while adding this to the talk page was, "AT LEAST THE TEACHERS GET ''PAID!'' AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN GET A NEW JOB! I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE! (And I've never received a paycheck for coming to school, have you?)" Obviously, no one should ever, ''EVER'', add that to the article. [[Special:Contributions/72.39.148.218|72.39.148.218]] ([[User talk:72.39.148.218|talk]]) 04:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)This omitted that 16 to 18 year olds typically go to colleges (studying "A" levels or other advanced level course for 2 years) after leaving school. Some secondary schools/ grammar schools offer a sixth form for 16 and 17 year olds allowing them to study "A" levels whilst remaining at school (instead of going to college). A typical route (among various other routes) could be Primary School (infant school and junior schools often on the same site), Secondary school (age 11 to 16), college (generally age 16 to 18), University (generally 18 years plus). Note that Universities are often made up of Schools (referring to subject areas) and sometimes colleges (which groups of students will belong to). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.111.5.141|88.111.5.141]] ([[User talk:88.111.5.141|talk]]) 20:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->HOLA MIS AMIGOS!!! XD <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.253.238.73|201.253.238.73]] ([[User talk:201.253.238.73|talk]]) 18:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->The stress section on the school article should tie in facts; and tie them in with the other facts, about governing parties, about the administration of discepline upon children, and how it is difficult for students who want to learn or teachers who want to teach. Such as laws that prohibit the old mandatory system of punishment when breach of conduct under rule from being carried out in countries such as Australia or America. Further still countries that do have a disceplinary system may also have other factors, such as deep levels of pressure from family based around honour values such as Japan or China. Founding all these otherwise argueble ideas with facts via government websites or historical refrences and asking others to base their points with facts will eliminate open ended bias and trivial conflict on who suffers more at school or how much life sucks dick, or lifes a bitch which illustrate very little and is open to alot of interprations which are at large misleading. I further still suggest to avoid Pyschological Study refrences since its easy to found ideas of who suffers more in such refrences. Unless you can find more viable points beyond, students suffer the most and teachers suffer the most then avoidance is strongly advised. --Suggestive 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== School structure == |
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Should the artice be reworked to shift it's focus towards the typical structure of the school and education process? I believe yes, because article that mentions cafeteria as a part of the school yet says almost nothing about the grades etc seems to be rather uninformative and even misleading [[User:ArchSaur|ArchSaur]] ([[User talk:ArchSaur|talk]]) 15:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:Problem is determining what is typical. These questions should be covered in depth in articles about particular countries or kinds of schools, and only lightly referred to in this article, mainly for the purpose of linking. That also goes for cafeterias, incidentally, which get too much attention here. [[User:Jim.henderson|Jim.henderson]] ([[User talk:Jim.henderson|talk]]) 01:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC) |
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===School==== |
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is a place of being loud and playing around in a jungel gym. but you have to watch out for the lions that rome around. |
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school is crap says the queen. |
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